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Ever since I have had my ALD, I have been reading this forum. It is a wonderful place to learn and get information regarding my sweet little guy who is 14 months old. I don't think that any of us wouldn't say that we just love the doodles as well as anybody else that knows or meets them.

I have been reading and staying up on the whole Rutland Manor situation. My guy is from a US breeder who I have respect for and who has always been helpful and is always interested in how her pups are doing. But here is the thing... Augie is directly related to RM Shasta/Grandmother (Shasta's first EARLY litter) and his Mother was bred at RM and sent to the states.

I have been keeping an open mind regarding everything I have been reading - all over - involving Rutland Manor. But I have been also pondering many things in my own mind. Not all these organizations, Baw Baw, neighbors, breeders that have spoken out, a university,and so on and so on,. are in a massive conspiracy out to get Beverly Manners. I feel very much that they want/need to see these unbelievable sweet ALDs rescued from these conditions of which they are living in.

I have read numerous times that people are asking for more 'proof' from these organizations. It seems clear to me that there is an ongoing investigation and they might be under advice or orders to not post all the evidence that they have in their possession RIGHT NOW. Here in the US, whether it is police, sheriff, FBI, IRS or any other departments that have investigations, they do NOT play 'all their cards' until they get their entire case together. I am wondering if this might be the case in Australia too.

In all civilized countries, children and animals are protected. They are the 'innocents' that can't protect themselves. If there is a united ongoing investigation, I am sure that these people and organizations are hopefully or SHOULD be all working together to protect these dogs. I am under the belief, after reading everything I find with a completely open mind, that many people would love to get up on the highest steeple, with the largest megaphone, and yell out all they know right now. I don't believe they can YET!

My greatest worry is regarding my totally loyal and loving Augie. There is nothing that I wouldn't do to protect him in the past, present, and future. But right now, I have NO TRUST, whatsoever, of Rutland Manor's part of the pedigree and health testing of his close relatives. I am very concerned about what might appear in future years and the heartbreak that may come. This is a new breed. I am worried.

But I love these dogs. And I wouldn't hesitate to get another one. But I feel that we all have to hold our breaths concerning any pedigree that is from Rutland Manor or the late Teagan Park for potential health problems in the future. And my hope is that all OTHER breeders of these dogs, with this BEAUTIFUL temperament, keep breeding them all over the world so other families will have the same joy that I have with my guy.

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There are dogs being stabbed in the heart without anesthesia in "shelters"?
Yes. The procedure is called a "heart stick", and they go right through the chest wall into the heart (sometimes several times if they miss the first time) with a syringe. It's cheaper. You can do a Google search for the exact details; here's one article, but I warn you it's a tough read.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-heart-stick-euthanasia-in-st-...

Gassing is far from the worst way for a dog to die.
I have read this before and it is heartbreaking.
I agree with you Karen. I can understand that people might be concerned that their dogs came from these lines, but that's something that they need to deal with through health testing (if needed) and after that just loving their dog. There are so many issues here in the states that are horrible. Not just the stabbing in the heart that Karen mentioned, but someone recently told me that some 'middle of the no-where, GA' animal control keeps a barn in the back with an old pick up truck and puts all of the non-rescued dogs in there, turns the car on and lets them suffocate to death. Whether this is true or not does not matter. The problem is that we have our own issues here. Let's focus on saving the animals in our neighborhoods first then go overseas.

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