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I know most of you are well aware of Murphy's issues with dominance.  Today we had our visit with a Behaviorist, and I feel like it was incredibly worthwhile.  Here's a summary of our key "take aways".

  • I've been referring to Murphy's problems as "dominance". They really aren't....it's aggression.  He is demonstrating two distinctly different types of aggression....fear based aggression and what they used to call "dominance aggression" but now refer to as communication breakdowns. I've been so reluctant to call him aggressive....but that IS what he is and I need to face that.
  • This is genetic.  After completing a 10 page questionnaire which details Muphy's full history the Doctor feels there is nothing to indicate that there was any event in his life that would have caused this.  He is "hard wired" to behave this way.  She did say that while it is not common she has seen several male Standard Poodles with almost identical behavioral issues to Murphy.  She also said that this ALD "genetic background" presents lots of potential concerns (in her opinion).  The high energy of the Lab and Poodle, the super intelligence of the Poodle along with their high energy (and dominance in some males) and all  of the recent problems with aggression in Cocker Spaniels present concerns from a genetic perspective.
  • She felt that all of the work we've done with Murphy has been exactly what he needed.  I was so relieved to hear that.  She agreed with the approach we have been using for training and felt that our trainer was guiding us appropriately.  Her feeling was that without all of this work he would have bitten and it could have been a serious attack. 
  • He should never again be allowed to be with our grandchildren without a muzzle.  That was so hard to hear.  Thank heavens he has not bitten one of them.....but now I know that he could.
  • That brings us to the concerns about how he is behaving with our son.  It happened again this morning.  My son started to walk into the room where I was and Murph jumped up and charged at him.  Again, my son was terrified.  The Doctor felt this was really serious.  Whenever I can't be right there to supervise his interactions with my son, he needs to be either crated, gated in my room or muzzled.  When I go to bed, Murph needs to be gated in my room so that he can't run into my DS during the night.  There have been episodes when I was asleep and our son got up to use the bathroom and Murph became territorial.  Isn't this all so sad?  I'm tearing up just writing it.
  • For the next two weeks DH and I can give Murphy NO affection of any kind.  Everything good needs to come from our son.  He needs to feed him, treat him, and pet him.....only him.  He needs to start with a couple easy training commands or tricks, and treat, treat, treat.  Murph needs to view him as the "fun guy"....he still needs to respect him, but also feel bonded to him.  Right now there is no bond or respect.
  • We are taking Murph to run off leash now three or four days a week and also giving him his hour walks.  She said he needs those walks but he also needs 30 minutes of a good cardiac work out every day.  So on the days we don't let him run we'll do the walks and then 30 minutes on the treadmill.
  • I need to take him to our vet for a full thyroid panel.  Once she rules this out we will talk about the potential for medication.  She was talking about "doggie prozac".  She does not believe this will help with his dog aggressiveness but it would probably help with what's going on with our son.  She said she wants to think more about this because of the seizure side effects in some dogs (especially Labs and Poodles).  Most dogs display seizure disorders around five years, and Murph isn't yet three. If he has this propensity, the med could trigger a seizure.  She was concerned because he did have a seizure associated with a high fever previously....of course this is different from epilepsy, but it was still a little concerning for her.  We'll talk to her in two weeks and then decide on the med issue.
  • That brings us to the dog aggression.  It is only on leash which she said is indicative of a dog who is fearful.  They sometimes feel "trapped"....like they are helpless and vulnerable.  I didn't understand how a dog who was dominant would also be fearful, but she said it is not at all inconsistent. 
  • You may remember that we have moved from a choke collar to a gentle leader to a prong collar and now to an e collar.  Dogs like Murph often just become desensitized to their training tool.  They basically build up a tolerance and the corrections become meaningless.  We have to be very careful of this with the e collar, because after this there's nothing left.  We will need to walk him with both a prong and the e collar, and only give him the e collar correction in a severe situation.  For regular heeling, we'll use the prong.

So this is just a "drop in the bucket" of what we learned today.  Much of it was a reinforcement of what our trainer has taught us, but there was also lots of helpful and important new information.  We were with her for over two hours and I'm amazed with how much she was able to share in that time.  We know what we have to do in the short term, and I'll talk to her again in a couple of weeks to determine where we go next.  I always thought that we were dealing with a serious situation with Murphy, but I guess I really didn't fully understand how serious until today.  We will be buying our boy a muzzle....breaks my heart, but I have to keep everyone safe.

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I know how hard this must be for you to hear, but the greatest gift of love you are giving Murphy, is providing him with sufficient structure and restrictions so he can't get into trouble.  You are my heroine.  The behaviorist sounds fascinating. Wow, how did you find her?

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