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Advantix Alert!!!! -- Update on Chloe & Lexi
Update 3/15/2009 - Thank you everyone for your prayers and good wishes. After three weeks I think we are totally out of the woods. Financially, it took around 2K to get both my dogs right (read on if you want the history of this message). Chloe recovered after one week of fluids and Lexi is rebounding very well. After the swelling we changed her out to Benadryl, an ECollar, and her antibiotic to ensure no infection to the open sores. She had chewed all the hair off her paws and started on her hind quarters. She looked absolutely pathetic.
I finally took the brush to her last night and she had a lot of dried skin (like large dandruff) coming off as well as almost all of her undercoat. I had a huge pile of hair (keeping in mind this is a Golden Retriever that is low shedding). I brushed from her and all of the sores she developed in the midstream finally dried up and started coming off. The inside of her ears are all healing and we're almost completely white from drying out last week.
Sorry for all the gross details. The moral of the story: "Consider reading about other experiences with products before putting anything like this on your loved ones."
Thank you again for your thoughts and prayers. It's certainly worth knowing we can all reach out to each other and Adina is wonderful for keeping this site going for all of us to share the good and the bad.
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Incident on 2/21/2009 - This week has been the most unbelievable week I have spent since I have owned dogs (which has been for all my life). I read several blogs about Frontline not working and decided to alternate products and purchase Advantix -- alternating between Frontline. Living in Georgia, I don't ever have problems with fleas, but after reading some of the blogs about problems, I decided that this would be a good thing to do. NOT!!!! Advantix wreaked havoc on my homelife and my budget.
Chloe, my Goldendoodle spent the entire week being fed with fluids to correct her runny/bloody stools and vomiting. After a late Saturday dose of Advantix, Monday morning she was running to the straw to poop and stopping in mid stream to vomit. She went to the vet that day and spent from Monday-Friday on fluids to correct the problem. What was the problem? The vets kept asking what was in the mix? Nothing.... Chloe is three years old and has never had runny stools except when she had her two litters (twice -- diarhea two times in three years from eating a Placenta).
On Tuesday I came home and noticed Lexi, my Golden Retriever chewing herself. I turned her over and to rub her and soothe her and saw a patch of red. Well, this got worse. Once again, the vets couldn't believe that the product was a problem and asked several questions until Friday... Lexi was seen at the vet. She was fire engine red in the ears, and all over her body. They finally decided that this might be a bad batch, or maybe a changed effort on behalf of Bayer without telling their customers.
During all of this I read several postings on the internet about the product and how some dogs almost died. Most everyone had similar stories of Chloe, some had the same as Lexi. Unrealistically, it's hard to believe that some dogs have one and the other have the other symptoms. Not fair dog lovers! I'm in to it for $1500 and it's not over. Lexi was at the emergency vet today and she looked like a Shar Pei. She has a slim face and had wrinkles on her forehead and swollen eyes. She was absolutely miserable. This is one week and one day later and I'm still battling.
The good part, Chloe is recovering. She is still on meds but picks up the ball and is eating chicken and rice with a little dog food. Lexi, my Golden Retriever on the other hand, is not out of the woods.
If you use Advantix, reconsider if you have just purchased a new batch. Is it a new blend? Don't take the chances. Is it Bayer finally taking the opportunity to make good to their customers by changing the blend and not telling anyone because they read all the blogs? We called 4 times now, no admittance to any problems. The vet has called, no admittance to anything. Please note, the EPA is aware of the problem because we reported it. Bayer is aware because we reported it. No excuse Bayer. Own up! Stand up dog lovers! If you have a problem and they don't own up, let them know you have a great rapport with friends from Doodlekisses and that we all love our dogs. I have more things to do then spend one hour writing a message about the problems they are introducing to our loved ones if they think these messages are all crap. I need to be in there making sure my dog doesn't chew her paws raw and to be sure she understands that I'm here for her if she needs me.
If you are concerned about a lot number it is as follows: KP059V(U)L & KP057DB
If you want pictures I have them.
The Problem
Lexi's Ear
Lexi's Belly -- It's gotten worse
All the Drugs - More than I want to own
My Girl Lexi - Just Wants to Play Ball Again!
I finally took the brush to her last night and she had a lot of dried skin (like large dandruff) coming off as well as almost all of her undercoat. I had a huge pile of hair (keeping in mind this is a Golden Retriever that is low shedding). I brushed from her and all of the sores she developed in the midstream finally dried up and started coming off. The inside of her ears are all healing and we're almost completely white from drying out last week.
Sorry for all the gross details. The moral of the story: "Consider reading about other experiences with products before putting anything like this on your loved ones."
Thank you again for your thoughts and prayers. It's certainly worth knowing we can all reach out to each other and Adina is wonderful for keeping this site going for all of us to share the good and the bad.
-------------- INCIDENT INFORMATION ---------------------
Incident on 2/21/2009 - This week has been the most unbelievable week I have spent since I have owned dogs (which has been for all my life). I read several blogs about Frontline not working and decided to alternate products and purchase Advantix -- alternating between Frontline. Living in Georgia, I don't ever have problems with fleas, but after reading some of the blogs about problems, I decided that this would be a good thing to do. NOT!!!! Advantix wreaked havoc on my homelife and my budget.
Chloe, my Goldendoodle spent the entire week being fed with fluids to correct her runny/bloody stools and vomiting. After a late Saturday dose of Advantix, Monday morning she was running to the straw to poop and stopping in mid stream to vomit. She went to the vet that day and spent from Monday-Friday on fluids to correct the problem. What was the problem? The vets kept asking what was in the mix? Nothing.... Chloe is three years old and has never had runny stools except when she had her two litters (twice -- diarhea two times in three years from eating a Placenta).
On Tuesday I came home and noticed Lexi, my Golden Retriever chewing herself. I turned her over and to rub her and soothe her and saw a patch of red. Well, this got worse. Once again, the vets couldn't believe that the product was a problem and asked several questions until Friday... Lexi was seen at the vet. She was fire engine red in the ears, and all over her body. They finally decided that this might be a bad batch, or maybe a changed effort on behalf of Bayer without telling their customers.
During all of this I read several postings on the internet about the product and how some dogs almost died. Most everyone had similar stories of Chloe, some had the same as Lexi. Unrealistically, it's hard to believe that some dogs have one and the other have the other symptoms. Not fair dog lovers! I'm in to it for $1500 and it's not over. Lexi was at the emergency vet today and she looked like a Shar Pei. She has a slim face and had wrinkles on her forehead and swollen eyes. She was absolutely miserable. This is one week and one day later and I'm still battling.
The good part, Chloe is recovering. She is still on meds but picks up the ball and is eating chicken and rice with a little dog food. Lexi, my Golden Retriever on the other hand, is not out of the woods.
If you use Advantix, reconsider if you have just purchased a new batch. Is it a new blend? Don't take the chances. Is it Bayer finally taking the opportunity to make good to their customers by changing the blend and not telling anyone because they read all the blogs? We called 4 times now, no admittance to any problems. The vet has called, no admittance to anything. Please note, the EPA is aware of the problem because we reported it. Bayer is aware because we reported it. No excuse Bayer. Own up! Stand up dog lovers! If you have a problem and they don't own up, let them know you have a great rapport with friends from Doodlekisses and that we all love our dogs. I have more things to do then spend one hour writing a message about the problems they are introducing to our loved ones if they think these messages are all crap. I need to be in there making sure my dog doesn't chew her paws raw and to be sure she understands that I'm here for her if she needs me.
If you are concerned about a lot number it is as follows: KP059V(U)L & KP057DB
If you want pictures I have them.
The Problem
Lexi's Ear
Lexi's Belly -- It's gotten worse
All the Drugs - More than I want to own
My Girl Lexi - Just Wants to Play Ball Again!
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Permalink Reply by Lynne Fowler-Oodles of Doodles on
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Oh Donna, I am so horrified to hear all this. I had a similar experience with Advantix last year and wound up throwing it in the garbage. When I put it on Ginger she acted like I put a hot poker on her skin. The only thing that seemed to make her better was running the cold water over it to wash it off. She never developed the symptoms your two did, but I'll never use it again. Fingers and paws crossed for a speedy recovery for both dogs and for you.
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Permalink Reply by Tamara & Giada on
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This is heartbreaking!!! I am so sorry this happened to your poor babies, not to mention your emotional and economical pain! Thank you so much for taking the time out of your emotional termoil to alert us!
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Permalink Reply by Pamela-Pambriella Goldendoodles on
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Thanks for sharing this with us Donna! I have used Advantix before with no problems, but I won't be using it again!! So Frontline doesn't work?
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Permalink Reply by Tracey on
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Oh look at that poor baby =(. That's really awful. We always used Frontline as we'd been told when our GR was a puppy that Advantix had some pretty decent carcinogens. I think they changed the formula, but we just stuck with Frontline since we never had any problems and seemed to work well. We'll definitely stick to that with the new pup. Thanks for taking the time to share your ordeal...so terrible!!!
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Don't you be embarrassed! They put these things on the market, and we expect them to be safe. THEY should be embarrassed.
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Permalink Reply by Yvonne, Riley, Murphy and Luca on
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WOW. I am so sorry to hear about your beloved pets. I hope that they are ok and back to themselves soon.
I have not had to pick a product for flea control yet, but this will not be it when it comes the time to do so. Thank you for the warning.
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Permalink Reply by F, Calla & Luca on
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I have used Frontline with no problems. I have not had fleas around that I'm aware of but we have lots of ticks. Through December Luca would come in with ticks but none attached to his skin, only on his hair. i think this is how Frontline works.I am wondering if anyone has any experience with Cedarcide for spraying outside for ticks?
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Permalink Reply by Deena Womack on
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So sorry to hear about this. I don't know all that much about flea control, our vet recommended Frontline and we don't know any different and Cali does fine with it. But after hearing your story and the pictures, there will be no Advantix in Cali's future..
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Permalink Reply by Karen & Lucy on
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OMGoodness, what a mess. I am sooo glad you posted this. I use Advantix all the time. I just checked lot numbers and they do not match what I have Whewww! Prayers for Lexie & Chloe, Hugs from me and wags & Licks from Lucy. I will be talking to my vet about this. Keep us posted.
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Permalink Reply by MBKANE on
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Donna thank you for sharing this with everyone. I am so sorry you and your pups have had to go through this! I will keep y'all in my thoughts please keep us updated on their recovery. Best wishes!
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Permalink Reply by TrevorDoodle on
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I'm so sorry for you and your pups! Lexi just looks pityful. I hope they are both up running & playing soon.
I researched what flea & tick product I wanted to use on my dog when he was just a pup and decided I wanted to use Frontline Plus. I remember when I went to buy some at my vets office the receptionist tried to get me to buy Advantix because I could get 8 or 9 packs of it for what 6 packs of the Frontline cost. I almost bought the Advantix for the cost savings but decided against it because I had researched and read reviews and I just felt
more comfortable with Frontline Plus. Also, I think I read something about it being toxic to cats. I remember the receptionist making me feel like I was just wasting money and one was just as good as the other. Now, I
am so glad I didnt let her pressure me into the Advantix! I believe you and your story. Poor Lexi's skin looks like some chemical reaction to me. I will NOT ever use Advantix. Thank you for the warning and I really hope your pups fully recover. I also hope Bayer takes some responsibility!
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Permalink Reply by cheryl & oliver on
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Oh Donna, I am so sorry that u and the dogs are going thru this. I used the product last year one time on my Austrailian Shepherd, and he ran in circles when I did it, howling!!!...I freaked and called the vet hysterical, and he told me to try and get as much of it iff as I could, it was the worst day of my life. I took him into the vet the next day and the whole area where I had put it was red and angry...I used some oinment he gave me, and cold compresses for about a week on him, I took the whole box and thru it into the garbage. I contacted the company and I got no response after 2 tries. My vet did dnot have success either, so I told all my friends with dogs not to use it. I was fortunate that he didn't have any worse symptoms....Hugs and prayers to you for your furry kids...Lets hope that this week will be better and they will be better....Cheryl
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