Considering a doodle litter

[Kat]

  I have a beautiful standard poodle bitch that I plan on breeding to another poodle later. I also am watching a gorgeous border collie boy for a few months. My bitch just went into heat and I'm seriously thinking about allowing the 2 to breed. The owner of the boy is interested as she got him to stud. He has a really good pedigree, really healthy lines. His parents were both health tested but he's still a little young for OFA. My poodle is also from clean lines just less impressive. There are show dogs in her lines but she wouldn't do well in the ring as she is a little long for her height. She is light apricot (mom red, dad white) her color varies in shade a little along her body and ears. The boy has a white head with freckles, brown eyes and dark sable on his body. He's long hair and has the most delightful disposition. He's the calmest BC I've ever met that didn't require hours of running to relax. My GSD is more active than him. The poodle is calm also just has a lot of sassy attitude.

 They are both so beautiful with the most delightful temperaments and are so smart that it is tempting. In the near future he will be moving across the country so if I want to breed them it is this heat or never. His owner has agreed to split expenses if we need to. We aren't sure what we should sell them for though. Since a standard of her quality sells for $1500, we were thinking 1/2. The pups should be exceptional. What is the average doodle litter size when mom is a std poodle?

 I've already researched everything I possibly can on pregnancy and whelping and since I'm home all the time that won't be a problem.

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

They're called anything you want to call them, Sue. Just like Morkie, Cavachon, Pomenauze, etc. People breed anything to anything and make up a name.

[Kat]

I didn't make the name up http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2487966/characteristics_of...

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

No, you didn't make up the name, someone else did. Look, someone else made up the name "borderdoodles":
http://www.cafepress.com/+borderdoodle_white_tshirt,20266260

Let's all think of crazy combinations of dogs we could breed together and give them names. Making up names is a lot easier and more responsible than making actual dogs.

[Noble Vestal Labradoodles]

I am in favor of the Bulldog Shih Tzu cross and we can just call it something like Bull S***.... I think this entire topic and the thought of breeding Border Collie to a Poodle in attempt to make a new breed is full of it!

A new breed will require a study of the health issue plaguing the combined breeds, protocol for testing to insure puppies are not affected by the health issues.

A registry with a data base to track offspring's health and conformation.

A set of standards to measure the success of the combined breeds. Professionals who know how to judge them.

A good breeder setting out with the ideals to make a new breed will have to be strong but open enough to see their idea may be a failure. This happened with the Labradoodle in Australia. The mix of the Lab and Poodle was not a suitable combination to continue to breed to produce non shedding companions that were service worthy.

[Joanne ~ Spud*]

What do pitbulls and poodles look like? Pittoodle?

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

How about a bull terrier and a cocker spaniel? What would you call that?

[BetteB]

This is my favorite name so far: Poodle x Westie = Wee-Poo

[Joanne ~ Spud*]

LMAO! We should breed them!

[Sue, Murphy and Bella ()*o*()]

I don't know Karen, What do YOU think they'd be called? :)

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

I think they'd be called a bad idea. Just like "bordoodles".

[Dan, Judi, & Timbow]

ROFL Karen! Yes Joanne, we should breed them and then have a dancing competition with them all!!! lol

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

"Bordoodle". Such a strange word.

The weather has been so bad lately, Jack can't get any exercise. He is such a bordoodle.