For All You Facebookers.....

[Brittney & Cally]

I just have to vent. We all know FB is not the place to go for information. Why I try still fathoms me but I do so whatever. Someone on FB asked for reputable breeder suggestions, so I suggested two of my favorite and very well know Michigan breeders. They said early socialization, health guarantees, spay and neuter contracts, and health and genetic testing were important to them so that is really the only reason I bothered to answer. I also stated and agreed why those things are so important.

Well here is a prime example for all of you who doubt us when we say do not get your information from FB.

This was someone's response to my answers....

In my humble opinion, getting a pup from a reputable breeder isn't that big of a deal. A Goldendoodle will be a good dog if you, the owner is a good pack leader, provider, and trainer. Let me just say no pups are going to come perfect, you have to train it to the way you like it. You get a dog to train it, not have it trained then delivered to your house .. it takes all the fun away from it ..

While it is good to have health testing, many dogs at young age are not going to show any signs of health issues, they come up later. As for temperament training, I think all doodles have a good temperament, as a new dog owner how do you even measure what good temperament is .. they are puppies, they are going to be playful and jolly, if you went to meet your pup, you would see first hand how good of a temperament they have .. and as for early socialization, that really isn't an issue if YOU do your part on training your dog, puppy socializations and all that, these are all easy ways to get your pup socialized .. why do you need a breeder to help you socialize your dog? It's not like they had bad bad upbringings and they have human or dog aggression .. like dogs that are put in shelters .. Regarding the issue about the breeder requiring a commitment from the owners to spay/neuter all their puppies ... I think that this is not something you should ask of the breeders, the breeders don't spay and neuter their dogs .. why would they ask you to do such a thing, it makes them hypocrites .. Its a really (mind my language) dumb restriction that you put yourself in from finding a good pup.

if you want to find a pup the right way .. you MUST go meet the pup in person, look at his/her personality when you meet .. is he or she calm and submissive? if so, probably a good pup to pick since he/she will be easy to work with.

its really not about buying the perfect pup from the best breeder .. cause there is no such thing as a perfect pup ... but more so training your pup to become YOUR perfect version of a pup .
just my 2 cents.




I am not even going to respond but really??!?! Well, that's my rant for the day, carry on :)

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Amen. 

[Rose Coward]

I'm wondering where you got the idea that I "did not plan to breed".  I haven't made my decision in that regard yet. There are many different people in this world, some want the top of the line pooch with all the bells and whistles, others just want a cute mutt to love.  We bought a cute mutt, and we're very happy with her, and we may choose to share that joy with others some for free and to others for a moderate price.

[Rosemary (Ro) and Enzo]

That's called a backyard breeder.

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

And that's putting it politely. 

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Unfortunately, when people breed untested "cute mutts" dogs to "share that joy", they also often share the pain and suffering of incurable genetic diseases, for both the dogs and the owners of those dogs. None of us who is living with such a dog, nor the many volunteers who are trying to find homes for the ones who are abandoned by owners who could not care for them, has warm or grateful feelings toward the people responsible. 

[Rose Coward]

Well, I love my Molly and have warm and grateful feelings for the family that sold her to us.  And if, or when I "backyard breed", or "puppy mill" my Molly or whatever other pejorative term you choose to use, I'm sure to have several very grateful friends as well.  Please (spoken gently and with a jest) let's not get all high and mighty when we all here decided to by a mutt.  A delightful, adorable, affectionate, intelligent mutt.   :) 

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

I didn't buy a mutt, I adopted my mutt from a shelter. And have since then participated in the rehoming of more than a thousand other mutts who were purchased from puppy mills and BYBs and then abandoned. Many of them with genetic health issues, including my own. Nothing high and mighty about being saddened and indignant on their behalf, nor about being opposed to the irresponsible breeding practices that caused their problems.  

Doodle Kisses supports responsible breeding, and responsible breeding ONLY. Nobody here looks favorably on the casual breeding of untested family pets.  There are many dog sites on the web where anything goes, including supporting BYBs and puppy mills, but this is not one of them. 

[Rose Coward]

Good work  :)

[Rose Coward]

Nobody?  Just because there are not many people who are willing to speak up against the bullying that goes on here by opinionated people it doesn't meant that they all agree.

[BG and Gavin]

If you don't like the "bullying" that goes on here Rose, perhaps you should move on.  We are not talking about used cars here.  I do not view advocating for the responsible breeding of dogs "bullying" and I am offended that you would use that hot button word in this context.

[Rosemary (Ro) and Enzo]

:)

[Rose Coward]

No, I'm cool here.  I don't bend with bullying.