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I just have to vent. We all know FB is not the place to go for information. Why I try still fathoms me but I do so whatever. Someone on FB asked for reputable breeder suggestions, so I suggested two of my favorite and very well know Michigan breeders. They said early socialization, health guarantees, spay and neuter contracts, and health and genetic testing were important to them so that is really the only reason I bothered to answer. I also stated and agreed why those things are so important.

Well here is a prime example for all of you who doubt us when we say do not get your information from FB.

This was someone's response to my answers....

In my humble opinion, getting a pup from a reputable breeder isn't that big of a deal. A Goldendoodle will be a good dog if you, the owner is a good pack leader, provider, and trainer. Let me just say no pups are going to come perfect, you have to train it to the way you like it. You get a dog to train it, not have it trained then delivered to your house .. it takes all the fun away from it ..

While it is good to have health testing, many dogs at young age are not going to show any signs of health issues, they come up later. As for temperament training, I think all doodles have a good temperament, as a new dog owner how do you even measure what good temperament is .. they are puppies, they are going to be playful and jolly, if you went to meet your pup, you would see first hand how good of a temperament they have .. and as for early socialization, that really isn't an issue if YOU do your part on training your dog, puppy socializations and all that, these are all easy ways to get your pup socialized .. why do you need a breeder to help you socialize your dog? It's not like they had bad bad upbringings and they have human or dog aggression .. like dogs that are put in shelters .. Regarding the issue about the breeder requiring a commitment from the owners to spay/neuter all their puppies ... I think that this is not something you should ask of the breeders, the breeders don't spay and neuter their dogs .. why would they ask you to do such a thing, it makes them hypocrites .. Its a really (mind my language) dumb restriction that you put yourself in from finding a good pup.

if you want to find a pup the right way .. you MUST go meet the pup in person, look at his/her personality when you meet .. is he or she calm and submissive? if so, probably a good pup to pick since he/she will be easy to work with.

its really not about buying the perfect pup from the best breeder .. cause there is no such thing as a perfect pup ... but more so training your pup to become YOUR perfect version of a pup .
just my 2 cents.




I am not even going to respond but really??!?! Well, that's my rant for the day, carry on :)

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It is bullying short and simple.  You are entitled to your opinion but you are also entitled to know that yours is not the only opinion.  There are some people on this site and I am not the only one who consider dogs to be, well, just that, dogs.  They are not superior to humans. 
Consider how responsible you were in breeding, did you have your spouse checked out for all the possible congenital issues so as to improve the breed?  I love my dog, but she's a dog.  And if I choose another reasonable dog to breed her with I am being perfectly responsible. 
I don't have time for more of this foolish banter, I will respect your right to disagree and you can choose for yourself if you will respect mine.  You're free to have the last word now,  I won't respond.  Do have a good day.  :)

I got banned from the Goldendoodles Owners Group because they don't like when I respond to fools like this one. These are the reason so many doodles wind up in shelters and needing a new home!

REALLY??? Ban me??  So I started a group that allows all questions, share pics and stories but you have to be nice and expect asking a controversial question you might get an answer you don't like. 

"These are the reason so many doodles wind up in shelters and needing a new home!"

Exactly. 

 

I don't do FB -  end of story. I have been known to go check out a page now and then - but I got so sick of the FB/bs that when I chose my little guy, I was thrilled that the breeder was a complete gold star on all points, and her FB page is a sleeping waste of space. She does not participate  

A breeder who does not require spay/neuter is not a breeder - just a puppy machine.  The post proves that you can't fix stupid and how many will read and accept as legitimate advice - even one is too many.

Exactly!

Amen, Sally.

" thumbs up"!

This is the reason I only use FB to look at photos.  WHAT is this person talking about?  Just 2 cents is about what her opinion is worth.  There's no perfect pup - true; all the rest is hokum. Her badly-educated opinion, but if you use FB for advice instead of credible sources you get what you get. 

Crazy post...not sure how you restrained yourself.  I too try and stay away from most FB groups on any subject.  

:)  You're a Rock Star

Me and facebook have a hate/hate relationship. I deactivated and reactivated it about 50 times last week, I ended up keeping it activated (ugh) but ONLY because I have family members on there and I live so far from home. I honestly dont think I couldve kept my comments to myself in that situation. People really grind my gears and things like that just drive me up the wall!!! :|

I used to be in the 'I love my Labradoodle' group on Facebook - it is how I found out about DK!! But, I left because I got so fed up with the ridiculous comments and advice that were being given there.

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