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well it actually started while I was on vacation. Whenever I would leave without her she would cry. I would listen a bit and it seemed like it settled down after a bit, but it was nothing like this today. I tried letting her stay out of her crate, gated in the living room, and she did perfectly fine for a young doodle, didn't get into anything, but I thought maybe this was the problem, i.e. perhaps she felt safer in her crate. I put her back in her crate today and it didn't help at all, possibly made it worse.
Do you think the uncrating somehow caused this to get worse?
I know that the common suggestion is to 'ignore' a dog that is making noise in the crate. However, I just thought I'd throw out there another idea that my trainer believes. My trainer believes that because whining and 'crying' in a crate is self-reinforcing (meaning it feeds on itself because it makes the dog feel good to do it and then the anxiety continues) it should be corrected. So what she recommends is to issue a loud, gutteral verbal correction like "QUIET" the moment you HEAR it and then march in and bang on the crate or shake it a little to create a 'cratequake'.
Then leave again (to where you can still hear her but she can't see you and is prompted to try whining/crying again) and repeat. She says usually this works in about 10-15 minutes but you have to set it up.
If you ignore the yipping she'll just think you didn't "hear" her and she'll be more stressed and keep trying. Correct the yipping and she'll accept quicker that this is just the way things are.
It doesn't matter if the timing of your crate banging is off if you MARK the barking with the "QUIET" the moment she starts. She is saying, "I want out! Pay attention to me!" and your'e saying, "No, you can not come out. Oh, and you want attention? How's this for attention?" The idea is that she eventually thinks, "I don't want that kind of attention. I'll hush up now."
This is what Peri's trainer says to do. Exactly.
You must mark the bad behavior with something more negative...a stern NO, a loud noise, etc..
My trainer also says to treat when they are quiet. Good quiet...treat.
Bark/yip - immediately, and I mean immediately while they are making the noise, say No, Quiet, etc...to mark it.
I am having the same problem with Bailey...Just a thought...
Wouldn't the shaking of their crate make them afraid of it? Bailey is doing so well at night, I would hate to make her afraid to be in her crate
No it doesnt. They dont associate the crate with a "scary shake", they associate the stern no with the unpleasant experience: therefore making them think that if I cry that will happen and make me uncomfortable.
You also dont want to shake the crate hard, Just place both hands on each side and rock it from side to side only a couple times. My Bailey still loves her crate.
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