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Permalink Reply by Jane, Rooney & Stuart on
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Sue - if I told you what I paid - you'd have to have me thrown off of DK for just being too stupid - LMAO!
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Permalink Reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on
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Which is exactly why they're selling franchises; this is about people making money, not about helping people be fit or healthy.
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Karen - I hear you but the problem is that I already have an almost non existant metabolism - I can eat a healthy & balanced diet, exercise and loose NOTHING. I screwed my metabolism up 20 yrs ago, they claim that this diet will "re-set" it. Just like I told Adina, they are going to start franchising this diet. I'd love you to take a closer look and then let me know your thoughts. biobodydiet.com I was and still skeptical but I've seen my friend do so well with it and she was over 300 lbs. She is keeping it off and does 6 weeks off drops and then does another 40 days. I realize that this is pie in the sky but I want to believe that is works.
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Jane, the number on the scale means nothing. Fitness competitors- people with the kind of bodies that we would all die for- weigh far more than you think by looking at them. It depends on body compostion- the amount of lean tissue VS fat. You have no idea what your friend's body composition is.
You need a good trainer and you need to stop looking at the scale. All exercise is not created equal. It's the kind of exercise you're doing and the way you're doing it that makes a difference. Have you ever done any serious strength training? I'm not talking about using dumbells in aerobics class.
When I was at the highest weight I've ever been, I was also the leanest. I had a bodyfat percetage of 10-12% (which is pretty amazing for a woman in her 40s) and I ate 3000 calories per day to maintain it. I wore necklaces as belly chains. That's what muscle building can do for you.
I also disagree with some of the diet programs out there, even the more conventional diets. You need to change the way you think about food, not just follow a set plan or count calories. Everything you put into your mouth causes a chemical reaction in your body, whether it's grapefruit, aspirin, or cyanide.
A woman's body is designed by nature to sustain two lives through nine months of starvation if it has to. That's why the human race has survived all these thousands of years. You have to work with your body, not against it. It isn't quick or easy, but if you do it right, it's forever.
You are too nice, smart, and beautiful a person to jeopardize your health this way. Have you discussed this with your doctor.
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No but I have an appointment in June and plan to ask her what she thinks. I used to be thinner - really have gotten 30 pds too heavy in the last 8 years. Heck - I used to run (jog) - one time an 8 mile race. I lifted weights and looked amazing. Then 3 years ago this July I ruptured a disk in my neck and was almost paralyzed - now I have a cadvier bone and titanium plate in my neck that is somewhat restrictive of weights for upper body. I can do arm though and leg, just not anything that stresses my shoulders or neck. I should get back at it. I have no excuse.
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You can work around any physical limitation; I had a client (a Vietnam vet) who'd had his knee fused! You heard that right, he could not bend his knee, it was permanently fused straight! I had cancer patients with morphine pumps attached to them. Muscle is muscle.
Look for a trainer who is certified by the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM), or the NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Association) which means they also have at least a BS in a related discipline, along with hours of hands-on experience, and not just somebody with a mail-order certification. You want somebody who is very experienced in designing strength training programs for people who have physical limitations.
The American Council on Exercise has an Advanced Health and Fitness Specialist Certification that would also be acceptable.
You can do this, kiddo.
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OMG, Jane, please stop taking this stuff:
Human Chorionic Gonadottopin (hCG):
A controversial usage of hCG is as an adjunct to the British endocrinologist Albert T. W. Simeons' ultra-low-calorie weight-loss diet (less than 500 calories). Simeons, while studying pregnant women in India on a calorie-deficient diet, and “fat boys” with pituitary problems (Frölich's syndrome) treated with low-dose hCG, claimed that both lost fat rather than lean (muscle) tissue. He reasoned that hCG must be programming the hypothalamus to do this in the former cases in order to protect the developing fetus by promoting mobilization and consumption of abnormal, excessive adipose deposits. Simeons, practicing at Salvator Mundi International Hospital in Rome, Italy, recommended low-dose daily hCG injections (125 IU) in combination with a customized ultra-low-calorie (500 cal/day, high-protein, low-carbohydrate/fat) diet loss of adipose tissue without loss of lean tissue. After Simeons’ death, the diet started to spread to specialized centers and via popularization by individuals, such as the controversial author Kevin Trudeau, famous for promotion of alternative therapies and treatments.
The controversy proceeds from warnings by the Journal of the American Medical Association and the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition[14] that hCG is neither safe, nor effective as a weight-loss aid.[15] However, recent studies in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism support the use of hCG.[16][17]
A meta analysis found that studies supporting hCG for weight loss were of poor methodological quality and concluded that "there is no scientific evidence that HCG is effective in the treatment of obesity; it does not bring about weight-loss or fat-redistribution, nor does it reduce hunger or induce a feeling of well-being".[18]
[edit] Homeopathic hCG for weight control
Controversy about, and shortages[19] of, injected hCG for weight loss have led to substantial Internet promotion of "homeopathic hCG" for weight control. The ingredients in these products are often obscure, but if prepared from true hCG via homeopathic dilution, they contain either no hCG at all or only trace amounts.
The United States Food and Drug Administration has stated that this drug is fraudulent and ineffective for weight loss. It is also not protected as a homeopathic drug and has been deemed an illegal substance.[20][21]
According to the studies noted above, the weight loss indicated by individuals on an "hCG diet" can be attributed entirely to the fact that such diets proscribe a consumption rate of 500-550 calorie per day, or approximately one quarter of what is commonly accepted as the daily recommended value for a male adult of average build and activity. Further, double-blind studies note no decrease in appetite by those taking hCG versus individuals on placebos and have offered no evidence that individuals taking hCG are more likely to lose fat than lean tissue. Long-term results caution that unlike individuals participating in a diet of, for example, 1100 calories per day those on a 500 calorie per day diet are unlikely to develop more appropriate eating habits and will gain weight more quickly after the diet has completed.
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Yep - they based this on Simeon's work. and talk about how the metabolism is re-set through the hypothalamus. I'm telling you that I know SEVERAL people (all in MI) that are on this diet and doing very well but I hear what you are saying.
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Permalink Reply by Adina P on
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Diets can ALL work in the short term. Show me these folks in a couple years then I'll be impressed.
Look Jane, the best and most simple way to put it is that this diet and supplements is B.S. It's no better than an anorexic taking a multivitamin--she's still starving herself.
As to your metabolism--it's isn't an off-on type of switch. And everyone has a metabolism otherwise they'd wouldn't be alive. Metabolism isn't about weight loss...it's all the metabolic functions your body does day in and day out. So your metabolism isn't 'off' but perhaps you're not burning the 'expected' number of calories you'd expect for someone your age/height/weight.
There are lots of qualified dietitians (registered dietitian is what you want...because 'nutritionist' means nothing legally or ethically or educationally in most states) out there. I am happy to find a list for you of ones near you.
Bottom line is this is bogus, fad diet stuff. This isn't a mere opinion but an expert opinion. This is what I do for a living and we dietitians are an evidence based (science-based) group of health professionals. We don't take bogus stuff lightly and any of us who have been doing this for a few years at least are hardly 'idealists' -- we're pretty realistic about what works for real people in real life.
It sounds like you're no nutrition idiot and you like healthy foods and you used to be physically active. 30 lbs over 8 years is a very gradual gain. I've gained 8 lbs in the last month and even I haven't eaten an exorbitant amount (though I am pregnant so a little different). Such a GRADUAL gain as you've experienced obviously means to me that you didn't suddenly eat huge portions or go from being an athlete to a couch potato overnight. There were some subtle, over time changes in your eating and activity (some of which you've mentioned) and if anything your history of ANY diets have interfered with your ability to lose weight. Depriving yourself and trying hard to 'be good' isn't always effective. There are some emotional and psychological things that happen to people on diets where they lose their normal relationship with food and working on some of those little, subtle things CAN and DO make a big difference. It's not always about the 'perfect' foods at the 'perfect' times. Sometimes it's how you look at things and your mindset that helps you actually succeed. There are some RD's out there who are REALLY good at helping you weed through this stuff. Weight watchers is balanced and everything...but it leaves out some of the mindful eating practices that can really help people.
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Adina - I am going to make a phone call tomorrow! Thank you so very much!
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Permalink Reply by Gail+Kathleen,(Sydney+Olivia:) on
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Jane, we totally understand! We also are "all or nothing kind of girls".. And we have fallen off of our healthy eating and drinking wine wagon. We keep trying to remind ourselves how wonderful we felt when we were slimmer. As the old saying goes......"There is nother better than feeling thin!!!!!". But it's best to be the weight that you feel good with! From your pictures, you look pretty good!
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