Poodle mom in a goldendoodle?

[Binny P]

Hi all --

In most of the goldendoodles I have seen, it seems like it it typical for the sire to be a poodle and dam to be a retriever. One of the puppies we are considering has an F1 goldendoodle SIRE and a standard poodle DAM. I have not seen a poodle dam before in this mix.

Does anyone know if/why it seems that the poodle is typically the sire, not the dam? Would you have concern about a F1b with a doodle dad with a poodle mom? What would the difference be, if any, from a pup with a doodle mom and a poodle dad?  Any thoughts would be helpful!

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

It makes absolutely no difference which breed is the dam and which is the sire. It's most common with F1s for the Retriever to be the dam simply because Retrievers are typically larger than Poodles, especially when the Poodle is a miniature. For obvious reasons, it's safer for a larger dog to carry a litter sired by a smaller dog than for a smaller dog to carry a litter sired by a larger dog, lol. 

In the case of the litter you're considering, I'm guessing that the Poodle is larger than the goldendoodle? 

Genetically, though, it makes absolutely no difference in terms of what traits the pups may inherit. 

[Ginny Nightingale]

I agree with Karen and since the sire is a goldendoodle, he may be the product of a mini-poodle and a golden retriever, and may be smaller than the standard poodle--I hope so!

I do know of two lovely litters where the dams were Kleine Poodles (22-25 pound poodles--bigger than mini, smaller than standard) and the sires were 20-25 pound labradoodles--all turned out beautifully!

[BG and Gavin]

Gavin's mom was a poodle in his F1 crossing. She was large and taller than the golden.

[Binny P]

Thanks all! Super helpful!