SMACKING STUPID PEOPLE IN THE FACE SO HARD THEY MIGHT GET SMARTER

[Wendy]

Nice name for a new private group. This new group is really a nice way to get new doodle owners to participate and not be hesitant to ask questions about their new doodle puppy.

I am one of those newbies. I guess i won't ask any questions... just search for answers and hope someone else has already asked.

[Adrianne Matzkin]

Wendy,

PLEASE ask your questions, post your concerns, share your stories and your pictures!! That is what DK is about!

I totally agree with you on the group but since I have been here in DK I think I understand (not agree - but understand).
Most people that plan on having a baby do lots of research and reading before they make that major, life changing decison. It should be the same way before getting a puppy. There are so many puppies/dogs that get dropped in shelters or need to be rehomed because their parents have no idea what raising a pup entails - the crying, teething, nipping, training, 'puppyhood'. They just have no idea what life changes and sacrifices will have to be made. It can be so frustrating and so sad.

Please don't give up on us here - ask away!!!
Adrianne

[Wendy]

I totally understand that there are people who get a puppy without realizing how to care for them or how much work they will be. I also understand some members would love a place to go talk about how stupid some owners are... I do totally get that. So name it something more tasteful so people don't realize you are talking about them at least. Then us newbies can be blissfully ignorant to the fact that we are being talked about.

This is just my opinion as a new doodle owner new to this site.

[Debbie, Brianna and Duncan]

Please ask your questions. I applaud you for having the guts to post this discussion. I may get a slap for this response, but here is my two cents about the latest groups Slap inserts. I have found that Doodle Kisses has been a very friendly, positive, and helpful forum. Including people of every stage of dog or animal ownership. Everyone is a newbie at some point in their lives with any and all topics. Any person who does not remember this are just plain fooling themselves. Ask yourself what manner do like to learn from others....do we search out this negative type of response or do you look for kind and helpful mentors and teachers. The later is what I found on DK, and why I love coming here. This new group represents a bunch that is willing to use intimidation and it is only self gratification they search for and there slap inserts add nothing to be helpful to the original poster of a discussion. It may help the members of the group to vent, and yes I agree there are appropriate places to do this. They have recently used SLAP postings in response to others, I find this very passive aggressive and they don't even have the guts to go into full detail with helpful and insightful information (well one member excluded, in my opinion..but then why join this group? I lost a ton of respect for this persons knowledge and attempts to be helpful). Yesterday, I asked for a clear and factual explanation from one of the slap posts from Jacquie....got nothing, so that means there is NOTHING behind the slap except a coward in my opinion. The slaps are not meant to be in humor...if it was our administrator would not have to take the time to weed through all of the post responses and CLEAN up the garbage. I do welcome all groups and this one too, but it should be in an appropriate place like a personnel blog, or another forum set up to be a ranting forum for all dog owners who think they have a clue. You know, if they tried to develop a dog training style in this method of newbies and owners go ahead and ask your question and get a kick in the pants answer...well, they would be laughed at or ignored. Which is what I have done so far...Until the inserts of slaps in discussion....this is down right is offensive. (and can not be healthy to the kind administrator we have here on DK, JMHO) I will ignore the 'group', and if this group of people feel the need to have an area to entertain themselves, so be it. What is sad is they are also supposed to be the kind and helpful group rallied around and for "the Doodles in need"...sad they have to have this kind of negative thoughtless personalities toward new dog owners or owners with new issues. I feel for the dogs who will sit in a shelter because a potential owner turns away from the discussions of how new owners or seasoned owners posts or responses are sooooo STUPID that they want to slap the S*^*% out of them (words used within the group)..... Plus I think Profanity is another indication of their cowardliness.... and does nothing to help promote a positive environment. Doodle owners and dog lovers are or should be a very positive bunch and be thoughtful, kind and helpful....I like to think I train my dogs in this way, at times I loose my patients...I get off this BOX and walk my dogs, vent by exercise, work with them in the positive training style I chose, and think to myself how I would want to be treated....and yes I need a good kick in the pants every so often, I get that from my faith, husband, or my kids.

[Jacquie Yorke (DRC)]

I apologize for not responding to your post ..It was deleted before I saw it as was the slap (not intended for you)...Also Lynne did explain this all to you in great detail privately so I am confused as to why you are posting in here..If you are really feeling the need to criticise me personally, my sense of humor and other people's sense of humor then please feel free to do so...... but keep our work out of it because you have absolutely no idea what we do and what is involved.The group is PRIVATE so as not to offend.....So unless you are worried that you may happen to be the topic of one of our "Stupid People" discussions, and quite frankly I have better and bigger things to discuss than you.... lighten up and get over it...

[Debbie, Brianna and Duncan]

For the record....I did not receive such email from Lynne and don't have a clue to what you are talking about. I do welcome YOU to privately explain your thoughts and knowledge to me because I am interested. It was a response to my original post and was respondent that you slapped. And thanks for your support on sharing my thoughts and feelings about this type of humor. I did not find the open forum slaps funny but could care less about your group. Jacquie, yes it is my opinion that the humorous discussions of being slapped and the negativity my turn away people from looking any farther into the rescue forum and has nothing to do with what it 'takes' to do rescue work. Why not post all of the hard work then, if you need to educate us on that....You may get some positive feedback for it. If you disagree, that is great ....I will not 'play' with you on this subject anymore because I take rescue very seriously too. It is your style you chose and yes that is your right.

[Debbie, Brianna and Duncan]

Read my post Jacquie...I could care less about the 'group' which only recently became PRIVATE. It is the mid discussion slaps and open forum discussion you freely offered out that cause me to respond here. And no I am not worried AT ALL about you calling me stupid. I'm a big girl and can take it. I will ask you for clarification and hope hope you respond with something I could respect, and I would only be the judge of that. If that worries you to respond......then don't slap my posts in the first place. ps. I have nothing to get over, pretty happy person here who owns lovely happy doodles in my opinion, and I love to share them in discussions too.

[Jacquie Yorke (DRC)]

Debbie, I think I was confusing you with another member that Lynne had a private discussion with so sorry about the comment above....The slap was meant to be humorous and actually was not intended for you personally...I think it just happened to be placed under the last post in the discussion which happened to be yours......

[Debbie, Brianna and Duncan]

Hey, we all make mistakes now and then. I would like to read more about the topic that was being discussed at the time. Too bad the information was discussed privately.

[Adrianne Matzkin]

Hi Wendy,
I don't think newbies are ignorant!! I was ignorant! - I actually got Samantha at a Pet Store!
I had been in DK awhile before I posted my story on how I found her - honestly I was afraid of what would be said since I got my education real quick about Pet Stores. I did get flack on the pet store thing and I do understand why. But that is what education is about - to learn and not make the same mistakes twice!

We all have issues that come up where we need input from others to figure out a solution. I will be posting my issue tonight when I have a chance to write it.
Please, Ms. Doodle Newbie, ask away!!!!
Adrianne

[Tricia, Shiloh, Fenway & Tessie]

I think that there is intended humor in the title of the group...but I suppose it could seem offensive as well. I love to help people with questions, and have tons of my own questions. Wendy, don't stop asking...there is tons of great advice here. I don't think the group is in any way trying to intimidate new doodle owners into not asking questions. Sometimes people just need to vent and humor to one person could potentially be interpreted as something else by other people. Don't give up on DK....just like Adrianne said!

[Jacquie Yorke (DRC)]

Hi Wendy.....no need to be offended...The group is an off-shoot of a humorous group on Facebook for the sole purpose of laughter....We all need a good laugh once and awhile!....

[Jacquie Yorke (DRC)]

I find quite a few things and people offensive on here but the point of a forum is to have differing opinions and the freedom to express them....The group is private...If you can't take a joke?.... you don't have to join or participate.....