Tail Docking???

[Kimberly Risley]

Okay I know this is a Goldendoodle/Laberadoodle site. But we finally made a decision to go with a breeder for a Cockapoo. But most of, if not all the breeders in this area so far dock the tails of the cockapoos. I personally don't see a good reason for this. The reason I get for doing so doesn't seem good to me.

1. for in case of accidents like getting the tail caught in the door. 
2. for hygiene reasons.
3. Because the parents have it done due to the breed.

For me those reasons seem odd, or is it just me????  I have had small dogs and never had any problems with the dogs getting their tails hurt for any reason. As for the hygiene that is simply solved by giving the dog a bath if he needs one. I haven't had a Cockerspaniel or Poodle but guess those breeds have the tail docking thing done.

Should I care weather or not this is done. I personally like a dog to keep its tail. But seem the only way for me to have a Cockapoo with its tail is to pay in Full before the pups are born. So the breeder can save one pup from getting its tail dock. But then I don't really get to see the personality of the pup. I guess I would only be able to pick the sex and color and that is it.

I'm trying to decide if this is really a big deal. I just had to have something done to a dog that doesn't need to be done. We do like the Cockapoo breed and the size of these dogs are perfect for us.

Also another question is getting a F2 or F3 fine? Or should I try to find breeders that do only F1?

 

[Adina P]

F2 or F3 really just depends on what characteristics you are going for and how that generation from those parents have come out in the past. Your choice. No better or worse.

Although the parents don't come with long tails, I don't see a reason to dock in a mixed breed because the reasons don't apply.  But the problem with paying in full is that the breeder can't possibly know which pup would be the best for you at the age they dock tails. 

I would like to know why only some breeds get their tails caught in doors ;-) 

[Sharon & Monty]

i think its stupid.

[Kimberly Risley]

I did find a breeder that doesn't dock the tails. So I will see how this work out.  

Well glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks that.

[F, Calla & Luca]

I think tail docking and other procedures that are purely cosmetic are abusive. Good luck with the breeder who doesn't.

[Sue, Murphy and Bella ()*o*()]

How awful. My two have such sensitive tails, I can't imagine what any dog must go through to have it cut off. And most likely without anesthesia. I can shave their genitals and they don't flinch, but brush their tails too rough and they are jumping like they just touched hot coals.

[Nicky, Riley & Boris]

I think it is a disgusting barbaric act.  In Ireland it is now illegal and only back yard breeders or puppy farms engage in such practice.  However much I wanted a particular dog any breeder doing this would have me running in the opposite direction.  Good that you have now found a breeder who doesn't.

[Elizabeth & Cosmo]

I'm glad you found a breeder that doesn't dock tails. I agree with everyone that it is unnecessary and unkind to dock tails.

When I was a teenager, I had a beautiful F1 cockapoo who ended up with more of a spaniel coat than the poodley coat we were hoping for, but he had a beautiful pluming tail that curled over his back. He was simply a gorgeous dog, and he wouldn't have been himself without the tail!

Adina is so right that the breed/grooming standards for the parent breeds simply shouldn't apply to the cross--who can be something unique and beautiful in his own right!

[Angela Maynard]

My Charley is an australian shepherd/poodle mix and his tail is docked.  I wasn't thinking about it when I was looking for a dog, but I so wish he had his tail.  I'll admit his cute little nub is precious when he's happy to see us, but I still wish he had his tail.  I know that both his breeds are supposed to have docked tails, but like Adina said, I'm not quite sure it's needed in a cross breed.....

[GBK]

There is no reason for docking a cockapoo. I sure would miss my Buddy's expressive, big, beautiful, plume of a tail.

Mine is an F1, my understanding is F2's can have throw backs to both parents in a litter, F3's start to form a standardized look.

I look forward to your new puppy Kimberly :)
Gina