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I know that many of you have had very good experiences with Dog Parks and I am very glad that this is the case!!! I also know that there seems to be more and more stories surfacing on DK about dogs and puppies being attacked and/or injured in public dog parks. We have also had some stories of the same thing happening in private dog parks.
I think it is good to keep this subject in the forefront on DK as more first time dog owners and new doodle owners join our group.
This article makes some very good points. The author obviously is not in favor of these parks and I am mainly just posting this to raise awareness about Dog Parks and their possible hazards so that each of us can make an informed decision as to whether or not we want to take our Doodles to one.
Any additional input is appreciated! Let's keep our doodles safe!!!
S. Greene
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I love dogs. Big dogs, small dogs, compliant dogs and dogs that don't give a hoot about pleasing anyone but themselves all share a place in my heart.
I love parks. Whether the majestic Tetons in Wyoming or the rugged beauty of the Grand Canyon, parks are special. I even like the corner tot lot - it is a great place for puppy socialization.
I love walking dogs in parks. Whether hiking a wilderness area in the high Sonoran Desert or enjoying an impromptu conversation with a child, going with a canine simply makes the trip better.
Yet, I am against Dog Parks. I am not in favor of fenced urban grasslands where numbers of strange dogs are brought to frolic in unleashed bliss. This is especially true when people are oblivious to their dogs' actions, in particular, and totally clueless about canine behavior, in general. With few exceptions, owners of both pet and working dogs should avoid Dog Parks like the plague.
Manure doesn't move out of your way; you must step over or around it. There are enough problems with training and socializing dogs. Without looking for them, some are bound to find their way to your door. No need to invite them in. When you come upon a situation that may land you in deep doo-doo, like a Dog Park, use common sense - avoid it.
I have yet to see a Dog Park that posts a sign: "No one under 21 weeks admitted." No puppy belongs at a Dog Park. A pup's immune system is immature and cannot physiologically be expected to repel a full frontal assault. Bringing a pup into a Dog Park is playing Russian roulette with its life. Yes, socialization is important. But, you can't train a dog that is either severely brain damaged or dead.
Even when your pup is older, or if you have a dog that is fully immunized, going to a Dog Park is very risky business. Who in the park is shedding Parvo virus or leaving giardia infested stools? Which dog was just exposed to kennel cough? Want to share fleas or ear mites? Is that a hot spot or ringworm on the pooch walking by?
Dog Parks actively facilitate the exchange of contagious diseases and parasites.
Dogs learn from other dogs. Are you willing to have your dog mimic these behaviors? In an ideal world, only highly social dogs with stable temperaments that are under voice control of their handlers would be found at Dog Parks. The world is not ideal.
To me, utilizing a Dog Park for socialization makes as much sense as using a stick of dynamite to light a cigar. Not only will you not get what you want, you may get results you couldn't imagine - even in your worst nightmare. And, you may have a big cleanup after the smoke clears, plus a scar or two.
If any trainer advises you to take a shy dog to the Dog Park and let it learn to play - get another trainer. If any trainer tells you to take an aggressive dog to the Dog Park where it will meet dogs that are even more aggressive to put it in its place - stop payment on your check. If any trainer suggests you take a fearful dog to a Dog Park for total immersion with strange dogs, new people and a variety of situations - cover your ears. And, should a trainer say that you have a really nice dog with good temperament and balanced drives - keep it that way. Don't risk training or socializing at the local Dog Park.
A Dog Park is not the appropriate venue for your canine companion to either learn obedience commands or practice socialization skills. That must take place under controlled conditions.
Many control issues come into play the minute you open the Dog Park gate. Even if your dog is Lassie and fully obedient at all times, things inside a Dog Park are not under your control.
You cannot control who comes through the gate. Despite posted rules and regulations, you cannot direct the behavior of other dog owners. You may ask others to watch their dog more closely, but what if they don't? And, what if they take offense at your request?
Many Dog Parks are divided into two specific areas: one for dogs over 50 pounds and one for smaller pets. Ever seen a forty-nine pound dog shake a MinPin? When there is one owner for both a toy poodle and a Great Dane, which area will they use? Will you be happy with that owner's choice?
You enter the Dog Park with an aging pet and find several mud slicks. Will your dog be able to maintain adequate footing with puppies jumping up or other dogs playing chase? Slick footing is dangerous for pups' joint development, as well as for senior dogs.
Is there a gap in the fencing? Are there holes beneath it where another dog tried to escape? Is poison oak growing up a tree? Why did the groundskeeper leave a length of barbed wire inside the fence and how many dogs will try to chew or fetch it?
NOTHING is under your control at a Dog Park - not the people, their dogs or the physical environment.
If you believe your pup has issues socializing with other animals or people, ask a competent trainer for help.
I watched a man bring packages of "mystery" meat into a local Dog Park, offering hunks the size of my fist to any dog close enough to take them. There were eight dogs present and only one pet owner succeeded in getting to their dog before it ate at least some of the meat. I prayed the man was a generous butcher and not mentally unbalanced or cruel.
A friend watched a woman place the contents of two bags of dog bones into a huge pile and then call ALL the dogs in the Dog Park to come for "treat time." Isn't that a new and interesting way to test dominance, aggression and food guarding?
One man's meat is another man's poison. Some dogs share food; other's fight for possession. What risks are you willing to take?
The only authority you have is the ability to take your dog and leave the Dog Park. But what happens if your exit is blocked by any of the first four on my list?
Each outing with your pet should be pre-planned. Not only does this mean taking the necessities, such as fresh water and a leash, it also means having a training plan and setting goals. Perhaps your visit to the park will be aimed at walking on a different surface. Maybe a trip to the tennis court is really a better opportunity to try off-leash obedience in a fenced area.
Setting the stage means deciding what steps you will take to make certain you and your dog reach a specific training goal. The more controlled your environment and the better prepared you are, the less likely you are to need remediation. It is much easier to set your dog up for training success than it is to try and fix a problem that you never saw coming.
A Dog Park cannot meet my criteria as a safe place for dogs to play or learn. There are too many risk factors working against a good training or socialization plan.
To set your dog up for success, you must have control of the training stage. This can't happen at a Dog Park.
A neighbor takes her high-energy miniature poodle to the Dog Park so that it may use those facilities, rather than her yard, for digging. As the dog dug its umpteenth hole, a woman approached my neighbor and politely asked her to remove the dog and replace the dirt. My neighbor said: "I won't leave and you can't make me." As the woman turned to avoid escalating the confrontation, she fell - - in one of the freshly dug holes - - and broke her ankle. My neighbor paid her medical bills and sent flowers, too.
A good friend took her Shiloh Shepherd to the local Dog Park early on a Monday morning. The usual weekend crowd was absent and several senior citizens were visiting with their pets. My friend took her dog off leash and slowly walked to the back of the park where she'd spotted an empty bench. As she sat down, she noticed her dog - - OUTSIDE the fence and immediately commanded DOWN-STAY. Then, my gal-pal proceeded to climb the fence and help others call their dogs. Someone failed to secure the gate and it was the owners who were securely INSIDE the Dog Park, while their pets were running free.
I haven't told you about the 160-pound Mastiff rescue brought to the Dog Park by new owner on his way home from the shelter. What about the 3 Dobermans that were dropped off at the Dog Park while their owner drove down the block to pick up his girlfriend after work?
Friends would accuse me of undue prejudice if I failed to mention times when a Dog Park may work:
Set you and your dog up for training success, not failure. Be smart. Be safe. Be in control.
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First of all thanks for stepping in to help a doodle in need!! Woo Hoo!! Way to go!!! No need to apologize. I appreciate the time and thought you put into your reply. I couldn't agree more about the need for some sort of a test before allowing people to own a dog. Since most cities require dogs to be licensed it could be incorporated into the acquisition of the license. Like getting a driver's license-you have to past a written test and a driving test.
Yes, bad things can happen just walking down the street as well as in parks. I'm pretty sure I would not be able to protect Tara from an aggressive dog attack so I carry pepper spray with me when I walk her. My DH also carries it. It's one of those things that you hope you will never need. Like insurance I guess!!
Keep us posted on your foster!!
yea, they'd been looking to rehome him asap. He's in rough shape and isn't well cared for. It's a long story, and all happened pretty fast. i'm planning on posting about it when I have the right frame of mind and have sorted it all out. Adrianne from DRC has been talking me through it by email (thank you Adrianne!!) - but it's not a DRC foster.
Sheri, clearly YOU have a dog park that everyone else envies. I only wish they were all this way, I am here to tell you they are not.
Our dog park was nice but as the word got out how nice it was the more people and their dogs came. There are always many people that come to socialize themselves and their dogs are clear on the other side of the lake, yes we have a lake for swimming. They are oblivious to the rules, their dogs potty happening (hence the waste not picked up) and if their dogs are safe or getting along.
During the first couple of months at the park the water is clean...the next couple of months, when it gets hot the water becomes murky and a film forms. The city closes the park and Zaps the water (whatever that is) and in a couple of days re- opens).
I have a friend who takes her dog to play chuck it. Her dog is always not feeling well, I have to question whether or not the park is why.
I did not join a band wagon, just saying what my experience and opinions are.
Here are some interesting recommendations on Dog Parks from a breeder/trainer, Ed Frawley of Leerburg kennels.In a perfect world...LOL! I love the suggestion of requiring owners pass a test before being allowed to use the park!!!
Recommendations to make dog parks safer places:
While I am lucky to live in a small community and have acreage to exercise and train, I know that others that live in large cities don't have an option to where they can go with their dogs. The following information is designed to help people make dog parks a safer place.
1- Dogs should pass a test before being allowed in a dog park
In my opinion communities should establish and set up tests that pet owners must pass before dogs are allowed off leash into these dog parks.
The tests should demonstrate the off leash control owners have over their dogs while the dogs are faced with extreme distraction. In other words, the owners need to be able to call their dogs back away from a group of several dogs that are playing.
Dogs that can't pass these tests should not be allowed off leash in the parks.
These tests should include a knowledge of how to deal with dog fights.
2- There should be parks for small dogs and parks for large dogs
Allowing very small dogs to run with large dogs can be a very dangerous situation for the small dog. The average pet owner has no idea how to break up a dog fight. They also can't comprehend how quickly a large dog can kill or seriously injure a small dog.
3- Be a responsible handler
Thank you for this Riki, I think these are great points. Sorry for calling you Tara earlier, I did know that but I guess I wasn't thinking straight. I have a friend named Tara so it just came out that way ;-)
I really love the idea posted earlier about having to have a pass to enter the park and needing to show proof of vaccinations. Sort of like on an annual membership basis. I really like this, and have been meaning to write to my city councilor about dog related issues in the neighbourhood, so I will add that to my list of things to bring up in the letter.
Wow, these rules are tough! I'm surprised people weren't up in arms about no kids under 12.
But this would do it, as long as the rules were enforced. The nice thing is that if someone doesn't follow them, you would have recourse.
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