Genetic testing opinions

[Discussing Labradoodles & Goldendoodles]

First I read post in picking a breeder and understand the different testing. I just also notice not many breeders are doing this especially with doodles. Even heard some say that it is only for pure bred inbreeding and hey don't want to waste there time testing. Also the people that invented the test push it? Obviously many top breeders do the testing and also only breed dogs that win some kind I titles such as any dog sport. Also heard one day here is no scientific facts on the testing? Ok my opinion truthfully is on the fence as a trainer I notice in the dog world many things come down to a debate . I am new to forum and have a goldendoodle on my list for my second fur baby .. My first is a 3.4 yr old Maltese that came from a mill and I do love my little boy and he made me into a trainer that found a passion In training and behavior. So this is why I am researching tryin to get a great start on my next fur baby . TY for any advise or input.

[Kimmy & Chewie]

Chewie's breeder said "Our breeding dogs are tested extensively to ensure the incidence of genetic disease, such as hip dysplasia, is as low as possible. We can guarantee that no puppy bred by us will ever go blind from progressive retinal atrophy or progressive rod cone disease. The DNA profiles of our breeding dogs are on file at the genetic technology lab in [name of city removed] and can be used to prove parentage etc."

According to the Australian Labradoodle Association (laa.org.au), all doodles require compulsory DNA testing for ‘prcd-PRA.

Prcd-PRA is a generic eye disease that Labradors, poodles and at least 28 other dog breeds carry. The disorder causes cells in the retina at the back of the eye to degenerate and die. There is no treatment or cure for PRA.

[Star and Goldie]

Vinny if you land on an amazing breeder they could even cover something not written in a warranty. I was faced with that just recently. Goldie has loose knee caps which could turn into something pretty costly if they don't tighten up. I spoke to my breeder about it and knee's were not mentioned anywhere in the warranty but she already stated that if it turns into something of medical cost then she will pay the bills, including surgery bills and (God forbid) if she were to pass away she would replace the puppy even after the warranty expires after 26 months. Most reputable breeders have their warranties online for you to read ahead of time so you can always compare those as well.

[Adina P]

Doodles...he left. ?

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Yes, so glad we spent all this time trying to explain things.

[F, Calla & Luca]

That is why sometimes I don't bother.

[Joanne ~ Spud*]

Without knowing, I thought I saw some dissatisfaction/dispute in the training group earlier but I really don't know.  Anyone remember this from early this morning?

[Joanne ~ Spud*]

It's not in my email but someone else may have it in their email

[Adina P]

It should still be there since this is still here. 
He was worried that we were all against treat training.  Which isn't the case.  But oh well.  He had a hard time expressing himself in writing, but I did sense that was knowledgeable in operant conditioning given the terms he tossed out like "premack". 

[F, Calla & Luca]

I thought this guy said he was a trainer.

[DJ & Chance]

He did.  He claimed his methods were backed by scientific evidence.  I gently asked for references to the literature, and he claimed not to understand the question.  My comment is still there.  His responses have been deleted.

[Adina P]

It sounded like he was into all positive training and operant conditioning and there is 'science' behind it in a way. I'm not convinced the science disproves other ways of training dogs though. I have yet to see a study comparing dogs who are to off leash obedience in various ways.

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Like a pre-med student is a doctor. He was reading some books and taking some classes. Got his first dog at a pet store and then had to learn how to deal with issues, so read up, and it was revelatory to him. Very enthusiastic, like a new convert to a religion,which is wonderful, but he didn't seem to realize that all of this dog stuff isn't as new to many of us as it is to him, and he wanted us to see the light. He took issue with the advice some people were giving in a couple of discussions in the training group. In fact, he called it "old school", lol. If anyone should have been disgruntled, it should have been the people whose advice he was questioning.

When I was going to school to become a different kind of trainer, I had a teacher who used to tell us "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing." A few books and a few classes don't make you a trainer, of people or of dogs. Especially when your experience is limited to your one little toy dog.