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Vomiting, regurgitation and soft stool
I hope I can make this clear, I'll try to be brief, but give enough information to get help.
Lilly will be 2 yrs mid January. She ate Honest Kitchen Preference for over a year. With Preference, I cooked either chicken or turkey breast, then switched to (10% fat) ground beef. The switch to beef was about 3-4 months ago. Suddenly a few weeks ago, she started skipping midday meals, then when she did eat she would regurgitate, or vomit after eating.
Without going into her day by day diet, if she vomited, her next meal would consist of beef, rice, sweet potato, or just plain rice. If no vomit (or regurgitation) in 12 hours, I'd add a little HK to her next meal. Once again food came back up. On the 4th day of this we went to the vet she did X-rays to R/O a blockage. There wasn't a blockage; she chalked it up to just a sour stomach, and of course she tried to sell me their crap food.
The vet suggested that Lilly eat rice and beef for several days. When I believed everything was back to normal I reintroduced HK, once again regurgitation; came to the conclusion that the vomiting and regurgitation were directly related to the HK, so no more HK.
After researching for a new food, I went with Orijen Regional Red. A very small amount went into her rice and beef. We got up to 1/4 cup but if I increased it a small bit, her stool was almost liquid. As of yesterday she is back on rice, beef and sweet potato. I didn't log her stool during this time, it was sometimes normal sometimes soft.
Also after the first episode, Lilly started biting and/or licking her bottom. So now I'm thinking maybe she has a parasite?
Should I just bring a stool sample to the Vet tomorrow? Or should I bring her in for testing? But what kind of testing should be done?
I should also mention she was bathed and anal glands were expressed the day after the X-rays were done. The very next day she started to smell. At first she smelled like popcorn, now she stinks like dirty shoes, socks and feet! The odor is all over, but strongest at the back of her neck, not in her ears.
Again, I hope I didn't jump around too much and ya'll can make sense of what I'm trying to say.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Lilly will be 2 yrs mid January. She ate Honest Kitchen Preference for over a year. With Preference, I cooked either chicken or turkey breast, then switched to (10% fat) ground beef. The switch to beef was about 3-4 months ago. Suddenly a few weeks ago, she started skipping midday meals, then when she did eat she would regurgitate, or vomit after eating.
Without going into her day by day diet, if she vomited, her next meal would consist of beef, rice, sweet potato, or just plain rice. If no vomit (or regurgitation) in 12 hours, I'd add a little HK to her next meal. Once again food came back up. On the 4th day of this we went to the vet she did X-rays to R/O a blockage. There wasn't a blockage; she chalked it up to just a sour stomach, and of course she tried to sell me their crap food.
The vet suggested that Lilly eat rice and beef for several days. When I believed everything was back to normal I reintroduced HK, once again regurgitation; came to the conclusion that the vomiting and regurgitation were directly related to the HK, so no more HK.
After researching for a new food, I went with Orijen Regional Red. A very small amount went into her rice and beef. We got up to 1/4 cup but if I increased it a small bit, her stool was almost liquid. As of yesterday she is back on rice, beef and sweet potato. I didn't log her stool during this time, it was sometimes normal sometimes soft.
Also after the first episode, Lilly started biting and/or licking her bottom. So now I'm thinking maybe she has a parasite?
Should I just bring a stool sample to the Vet tomorrow? Or should I bring her in for testing? But what kind of testing should be done?
I should also mention she was bathed and anal glands were expressed the day after the X-rays were done. The very next day she started to smell. At first she smelled like popcorn, now she stinks like dirty shoes, socks and feet! The odor is all over, but strongest at the back of her neck, not in her ears.
Again, I hope I didn't jump around too much and ya'll can make sense of what I'm trying to say.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Permalink Reply by Fitz & Henry on
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Okay I am pretty sure the blood work they did covered everything like that because the specialist is the one who did the panel. ($330.00) They sent it to Cornell and it took a whole week to come back. But it came back that he had no compromised immune issue. The ultrasound and endoscopy is next. Then our worst case scenario is them having to laparoscopically remove his secum.
But I now need to look up what you are talking about.l. When did that start, and is it now under control?
Ugh.... Why, why, why didn't I get the vetinary insurance to go with my mucho expensive pooch??? -
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Permalink Reply by F, Calla & Luca on
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Why on earth would they remove his cecum unless he had cancer or some definitive pathology?
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Permalink Reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on
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The GI panel only tests for levels of cobalamin, folate, and TLI. While Inflammatory Bowel Disease is an immune-mediated disease, the GI blood panel would not indicate a compromised system.
Here is a good article on IBD: http://www.2ndchance.info/inflambowel.htm
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Oh honestly, hell if I know.
We are now at this Vetinary IM specialist. She really is wonderful. The place is like the mayo clinic. But this was what they told me. That if they could not clear him of the Giardia, and after they do his ultrasound & endoscopy they'd know much more about what is happening with him. They said that was a worse case scenario - removing the cecum.. We are not there yet, and if we start heading down that path, believe me I will for sure be able to tell you "why".... I'm praying we don't get to that point.
The cost of just the ultrasound/endoscopy is enough to make you feel weak in the knees. : )
I just want him healthy, and I'd like to know and understand what I'm dealing with - and now I'm wondering if there is more here based on this new discussion. Ugh. -
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Permalink Reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie on
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I am so sorry this is happening to you guys.
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Thanks Nancy.... : )
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Permalink Reply by jeanne & Lilly on
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Karen and Jane, I started Lilly on lamb today, should I stick with it?
Or go back to poultry?
I'm going to give changing proteins a chance, before going to the specialist. -
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Might as well try the lamb. What does Lilly weigh?
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She weighs 72lbs.
Lilly didn't get rice today, but why are we eliminating it? -
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The thing is, the homecooked food contains far fewer calories than most kibbles. Ground lamb has 80 calories per ounce, or 240 calories in a 3 oz. serving, cooked sweet potatoes contain about 200 calories per cup. Lilly needs about 1400 calories per day to maintain her current weight. That's a lot of food. Is it possible for you to feed her three times a day?
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Absolutely, and Lilly will be very pleased.
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Lilly was fed 3 times yesterday; but didn't have a bowl movement, as of now 12PM she still hasn't. She does seems a little quiet today.
Should I continue with the same diet? -
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