AKC number for AKC course

[LeAnn, Lucy & Rusty!!]

Ann said "Hello to all,
I have a question.How do you get your doodle an AKC number to run AKC course??? "

[LeAnn, Lucy & Rusty!!]

Bottom line - you can't register a doodle in the ILP program. It's intended for purebreeds who for some reason don't have papers. Now, if you'd like to try to register your dog because it looks like a pure breed - you can try. But why?? There are some super agility groups that welcome "all american breeds" or mixed breeds with open arms.. check out these sites NADAC, UKC, USDAA, AMBOR, and CPE.

This is straight from the AKC website:

Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege
Giving all purebred dogs a chance to compete

Note: A fee of $10 was instituted, effective January 1, 2003, for Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege transfers or duplicate certificates. For more information contact [e-mail].

The AKC, PAL/ILP and You
Many people have discovered the fun of teaming up with their dogs and competing in AKC Events. But, not all of those wonderful canine athletes that you see at these events are registered with the AKC. Some might be enrolled in the AKC's Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege (PAL/ILP), a program that allows unregistered dogs of registrable breeds to compete in AKC Performance and Companion Events, also 41 specific breeds in the FSS® Program that are eligible for Companion Events.

If you have a purebred dog that cannot be registered with the AKC and have a desire to see what your dog can do in real competition, a PAL/ILP number is your ticket to the world of AKC events and clubs!

Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege (PAL/ILP): The program that provides purebred dogs a second chance.
There are various reasons why a purebred dog might not be eligible for registration. The dog may be the product of an unregistered litter, or have unregistered parents. The dog's papers may have been withheld by its breeder or lost by its owner. Sometimes, it is the dog itself that was "lost." There are many dogs enrolled in the PAL/ILP program after they have been surrendered or abandoned, then adopted by new owners from animal shelters or purebred rescue groups. The PAL/ILP program allows the dog and owner a second chance at discovering the rewards of participating in AKC events.

What AKC events may a PAL/ILP dog Participate in?
The Purebred Alternative Listing Program/Indefinite Listing Privilege (PAL/ILP) is designed to allow dogs to participate in AKC Companion and Performance Events. The AKC Events that a PAL/ILP dog can participate in are:

* Agility Trials (All Breeds)
* Earthdog Trials (Small Terriers and Dachshunds)
* Herding Tests and Trials ( Herding Breeds, Rottweilers and Samoyeds)
* Hunt Tests (Most Sporting Breeds and Standard Poodles)
* Junior Showmanship (All Breeds)
* Lure Coursing (Sighthounds)
* Obedience Trials (All Breeds)
* Rally Trials (All Breeds)
* Tracking Tests (All Breeds)

Once enrolled in the PAL/ILP program, entering AKC events is as easy as with a registrable dog. The only difference is that instead of an AKC registration number, you would list the dog's PAL/ILP number on the Entry form.

How can you apply for a PAL/ILP number?
Applications for enrollment into the Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege can be downloaded or by emailing [e-mail]. When requesting a form via email please include your name and current mailing address. Remember, PAL/ILP numbers can only be issused to AKC registrable breeds.

The following must be submitted with a completed PAL/ILP application:

* Two recent and clear color photographs of the dog;
o one full front view showing the facial characteristics of the dog;
o one view showing the full side profile of the dog standing on a flat surface (not grass).

(ALL PHOTOS SHOULD BE TAKEN AT EYE LEVEL IN A STANDING POSITION,
INCLUDE THE WHOLE DOG IN THE PHOTO. DO NOT SHOOT DOWN ON THE DOG.)


* Proof from a veterinarian that the dog has been spayed/neutered.

* A non-refundable $35.00 application fee.

Once compiled, the completed PAL/ILP application along with the items listed above should be mailed to:

The American Kennel Club/PAL/ILP
PO Box 900059
Raleigh, NC 27675-9059


Enrollment in the Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Privilege program is not to be construed as an alternative form of registration, but rather, as a listing so that dogs who are ineligible for AKC registration may participate in AKC Companion and Performance Events. A PAL/ILP may be cancelled for cause.

For more information or questions about the PAL/ILP program contact [e-mail].

[LeAnn, Lucy & Rusty!!]

I've just discovered another organization that sponsors Agility Trials that are open to all breeds and mixed breeds - Austrailian Shepherd Club of America (ASCA)! Who knew?? I would assume by their name that it would be for Australian Shepherds.. but I would assume wrong. Here's what their website says:

"In 1995, after five years of development, ASCA incorporated Agility competition into its competitive programs.

ASCAr Agility is open to all breeds. There are three titling classes: Regular, Jumpers, and Gamblers. The three levels offered are Novice, Open, and Elite. Within the program there are three divisions: Standard, Veterans, and Junior Handlers. An Agility Trial Champion (ATCH) title is a goal these dogs can work toward in all Divisions.

This fun and challenging team work sport offers great competition. Most dogs enjoy the sport of agility. Although it may look easy, it takes a lot of time and training for a dog and handler to become a team.

ASCA AGILITY - IT'S FOR ALL-BREEDS! "

[LeAnn, Lucy & Rusty!!]

Hey Ann?? I just looked and NADAC has an event in Roanoke coming up.. here's the info:
March 21-22 2009
Roanoke, VA

Club: Star City Canine Training Club of Roanoke
Status: Confirmed
Judge(s): Pat Daggett
Classes: Sat: CC, 2 Reg, J, Tg, Wv Sun: CC, 2 Reg, J, Tn, Wv
Ring Size: 100x100
Trial Secretary: Ann Hogg
Email: [e-mail]
Website: http://www.starcityk9training.com/

[Nancy - Opal, Meadow & Tariki]

WOW great research LeAnn.

[Ann W]

LeAnn
Thanks, that's what I thought, just confessed by those with Doodles who said they were doing AKC events. It could be that I read it wrong. I have Charlie’s listed with UKC and will also do NADAC soon. We are getting ready to start classes
again this coming week. Thanks for the information. This will be very helpful for other also.

[TJ]

Just wanted to chime in on this. Caesar, my doodle, is cut and looks just like a Standard Poodle with an undocked tail. I have been told by numerous people that I should go ahead and get an ILP for him in AKC in order to compete in the agility ring. A few of those people have even been AKC judges who saw him and said they would never question that he wasn't a Std. Poodle. And one person was even on staff with AKC who said the same thing! And the worst thing is, they know people are doing this and really can't do much to stop it.

With that said, I have never gotten an ILP. To me, it is all about being honest. There are plenty of other venues to run in and we have a great time doing so. There has been talk within AKC to open up non-confirmation events (obedience, rally, agility, etc.) to 'mixed breeds' but that is slow in developing.

Applying for an ILP requires submitting photographs of your dog. So if you think your dog looks enough like an accepted breed, then there is not much to stop you and you won't be the first person to lie about your dog's blood line just to get an ILP. But why bother? There are plenty of other organizations that welcome mixed breed dogs with open paws. Or is it just that important that you compete in AKC events?