Breeder canceled on me, has not refunded deposit NEED ADVICE PLEASE

[Susan, Coby & Chloe]

Help sought.....I had a breeder reneg on a deal. Details not necessary and it worked out for the best as the entire transaction had not sat well with me.  In any event, she stated she was putting the returned deposit in the mail to me a week ago.  My original deposit was in the form of a bank check and a refunded check in the amount of the $350 has still not been received. 

 

Any advice would be most appreciated.

 

Thank you,

Susan

 

 

[F, Calla & Luca]

Seconded!

[ClarkP]

Hi Jerry,
I believe we did delete one discussion. Because it was mostly your opinion that we felt unfairly represented a good breeder. We believe that breeders have the right to choose the buyers of their puppies just as much as you the buyer have the right to choose a breeder.

DoodleKisses is not in bed with Hales Labradoodles or any breeder - never receive one penny of revenue from ANY breeder. But seeing someone accused as being a bad breeders for doing something that we feel every breeder has the right to do - choose the final home for their puppies - was something we saw as not appropriate. From what we could see, Hales did not "do you dirty". Your situation (which we feel was completely different than what Susan describes here with and unidentifed breeder) was such that it made Hales Labradoodles decide that yours was not the home they would choose for one of their puppies. You might not agree, but they have that choice. Your accusations also didn't make sense. If Heather Hale was only about money and didn't care about her puppies, she would sell them to the first warm body with money. The fact that she didn't sell a puppy to you proves that your accusation is not true. She is not all about money or she would have accepted yours. She appears to be seeking the best homes for puppies that she obviously cares about.

Andy is right. The old discussion where you described your issue is still there (we only deleted the separate thread that was only about negative accusations) - and we get no revenue from breeders - ON PURPOSE. We don't even know if Susan is referring to the same breeder, but you are using this opportunity to once again sully the reputation of a breeder you have a grudge against. That's not appropriate and yes, I'll probably delete your "outing" posts.

The first rule of DoodleKisses is "Be Nice". Bringing up your old grudges because of a tenuously connected issue is not nice. Enjoy the great dog you have and talk about that.

-Clark
DoodleKisses hubby

[F, Calla & Luca]

Good explanation and reasoning.

[Wendy and Eddie]

Clark, you and Adina Rock!!!

[1xar0x2rcx0li]

Clark, I do hope you delete the "outing". It not fair to Heather, she deserves the right to face an accuser, or have an unbiased arbirator hear BOTH SIDES to a situation before accusations are thrown around a public forum. Have you contacted her to see if she wishes to respond?

[Sue, Murphy and Bella ()*o*()]

I can't believe we are back to this point with this. Susan handled her posts appropriately and with maturity . Jerry, please take note. It's not that complicated. NO ONE wants to hear negative bad mouthing. Enjoy your doodle, and again I say "Get over it and move on".
As for your accusations concerning Adina, I found them beyond inappropriate and immature! I hope they just ban you from the whole site so we don't have to deal with you anymore.

[Jerry Kandel]

Wow! I am not going to try and defend myself because the accusations are coming from all sides. First, I seriously looked for the discussion that I felt was missing for over 30 minutes - and I am computer literate. It was not under my name - belioeve me I looked everywhere. Second, I am going to say this very delicately because I don't want to put words in Susan's mouth; however, she and I have been corresponding with each other for the past few weeks - do you seriously believe that I just threw Hale's name out there? Come on folks, I am a little smarter than that! Susan didn't want me to say anything negative about Hales until she received her refund - which she received today - I am not going to speak for Susan other than to say that I know how upset she was with Heather Hale and didn't want to use her name until she got her refund. How upset she is with Hale and what are feelings are - I'll let Susan expound upon that herself.

My point in rehashing this is that I am not alone folks - it has now happened with Susan and I am pretty sure with others - if you want to keep defending Heather Hale - be my guest. However, those of us who have dealt with her know her true side. I love Sue and Murphy's comment "get over it and move on" - believe me, I have gotten over it - just my conversations with Susan have resurfaced old feelings - as for my comments regarding this board: I was in complete error and it was irresponsible for me to say what I did; however, for some reason that original thread is still not showing up under my name.

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

If the discussion isn't listed under your name, then how did I find the discussion, Jerry? Obviously, you didn't quite look everywhere. Pay attention, Mr. Computer Literate; audience at home, you can try this, too:
On your page, on the left-hand side, there is a section "My Discussions". Click at the bottom where it says "view all". On the new page that opens, there is a little box that will say "view" and you can change that from "discussions replied to" to "discussions started". Change it to "discussions started" and Voila! You will see your discussion which you claim disappeared thanks to a financial conspiracy between our friend and administration, Adina, and the nasty breeder.
You really owe Adina an apology.

[Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie]

Congratulations on getting your refund.

[Susan, Coby & Chloe]

OK, guys, gals and doods of every variety! I don't even HAVE a doodle in my possession yet and I already have the "honor" of having one of the longest and most controversial home pages on this site :-(

I appreciate everyone's impassioned stance but let's take a collective deep breath and extend some respect and compassion here for all involved.

Welcoming a pet into our lives, caring for one and, as I know all too well, losing one, constitutes some of the most emotional experiences we have in our lifetime.

Similarly, conducting business around this emotional - and financial - investment and undertaking can be wrought with difficulities, as Jerry (who in private was helpful to me in attempting to understand the surprising situation I found myself in) encountered. I'd read of his experience and had, in fact, even discussed it with the breeder beforehand. I ultimately did relate to his confusion and hurt.

However, I had decided not to publically air the particulars of my own situation, although if anyone would have asked I'd have provided whatever information they were seeking in personal correspondance so as to avoid any further possible heartache or ill will for, or towards, anyone.

My unfortunate situation was truly the result of poor timing - which in all honesty I had tried to address prior to the whelping but was told it was too early to discuss specifics. Ultimately, although the pups did arrive more or less at the anticipated time, the pick up date was a good three weeks earlier than anticipated. It would have been very difficult for me - along with my family including other children and their spouses - to change travel plans to attend my son's college graduation not far from the breeder, so much so that the cost of this already expensive pet purchase was rising to prohibitive amounts. I truly do wish I'd have had the opportunity to learn more about the time frame for pick up, etc. beforehand (ie. I did not know it would be limited to one day before boarding costs would be institutued) but those are moot points for me now. There were other communication issues as well that I did find concerning/troubling but my primary hope now is that this opens such communication for future prospective owners, involving this particular breeder or others. No one wants to be in a situation where their hopes and dreams are dashed over simple misunderstandings. It is unfortunate, it may very well be unfair...but it is life.

To that end, I hope we all get on with ours - with compassion for one another and commitment to making our lives as enriched as possible with the loving addition of the pets we have, or eventually will, welcome into our hearts and homes.

Namaste,
Susan

[Jerry Kandel]

Susan has chosen words that I should have used myself and she is absolutely 100% correct in her assessment. I know how I have come off to everyone and I could care less if I can't change your opinion; however, from someone who went through a similar experience as I did and understands the hurt that this breeder caused to my wife and I - well words could never accurately reflect that (for a breeder to cancel a contract on Thanksgiving eve because she (by her own admission) had a bad day - well if that's the type of breeder you want to deal with then be my guest). As for breeders having the right to choose their buyers - sure, that is their perogative; however, when those breeders break a legal contract - well, that is something else. I am not going to rehash this any further other than to say I am glad that in the long run Susan got her refund and will eventually get her puppy - as stated previously, I owe an apology to this board for jumping to conclusions - to Karen and Jack - sarcasm will only get you so far - read my post above for what I thought was a pproper apology

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

An apology includes the words "I'm sorry", and does not include qualifiers like "however" to try to justify outrageous behavior.