Labradoodle & Goldendoodle Forum
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Thanks for the suggestion. Riley got a PetSmart gift card for Christmas so maybe we'll spend it on that. I'm sure that's exactly what she wanted. LOL
She'd probably hurt herself more pulling with a choke chain than a prong. But like others have said, those are merely tools. The dog doesn't learn to use them correctly, you have to learn how to use them correctly. In other words, choke chains and prongs don't generally work best by just putting them on the dog and hoping they don't like to pull. It takes a certain method/technique so that the correction is quick rather than prolonged by a dog choking for 20 seconds straight. With the training method I use, there would have been a correction, before the dog reached the end of the leash or I would have turned and walked a different way (early on anyway, before commands were well obeyed). For times when my dog should know better, I would have put the dog in a heel command and then corrected for an improper heel rather than 'for pulling' or attempting to pull.
The quick correction is how our trainer taught us to use the choke collar. I found this works well to correct pulling while on a walk (assuming it doesn't get tangled in her coat). However, I haven't figured out how to give a quick correction when she is standing beside me just fine and out of the blue she lunges towards someone. She is at the end of the leash before I could even try to issue a correction. It's like 0 to 80 in 1 second. She'll be sitting (maybe with a little wiggle) then all of a sudden an explosion of pent up energy. I've practiced having her sit as people walk by from different distances. This has worked pretty well. It's when we get up close that I have trouble preventing the out of the blue lurch. Particularly when they call her name. How would you handle that one? Thanks!
On another note, I agree 100%, calling a dog (name or no name) when he's on a leash is just rude.
Because you can't train neighbors, friends and relatives you can not overstate the importance of training your dog. There is no such thing as an overtrained dog. We used to have Great Danes and had one litter. A Vet Tech that we adored talked her husband into letting her have one, she being a petite woman. Before the dog was even six months old she allowed him to drag her down the road for walks and thought it was funny when people reacted to the size of her dog. Her husband asked me to please talk to her and this is the key to my belief, if I want to impress someone with my dog, no matter the size, I want them to see the great leash manners when out in public, way more impressive than a cute dog is a well mannered dog. My girls are required to walk well, as we come to each corner, as we get there, they are prepared to sit and stay until I move forward to cross the street (we often see people point out their car window) and if anyone approaches they have to go into a sit before they are allowed to be greeted by who ever approaches. That training will safe your poor neck and spine and your dog will become calmer and respectful on your walks. Hope this smoothes out for you soon
I'm mortified when she doesn't behave so it's not because I don't care how she acts. I'm just still learning how to keep control at all times. We also make her sit if anyone approaches but I can't get her to STAY in the sit. Or if she does stay sitting, she will wrap her paws around their arms when they reach down to pet her and then uses this as leverage to stand on her back legs. TALK ABOUT BEING MORTIFIED! I just wish I knew how to make her stay calm. I guess I need to try using treats again. I just didn't like the idea because it seems like she is only doing it for the food not because I'm in charge. What happens when the treats go away. Just feeling a bit discouraged.
I'm going to let someone else answer the treat question you just posted, but I will add that the Easy Walker is the best for getting good control and training.
I have two 60# doodles and they each have one on still as I need control of 120# of dogs for those squirrel and other distractions that are just too sudden for me to give a command before they get excited. That is rare though and a good firm "Leave it" usually solves that issue as well. (Which btw, took a LOT of treats in the beginning, now hardly ever given).
I certainly don't worry about appearing rude when it comes to training or safety. They will either get the message or have to get over it, but at least I'm not dealing with out of control dogs, neck injury or worse, and someone else possibly getting hurt. I'm sure with the info here on DK you will be pleased by the results and remember, she feels whats happening on the other end of the leash, so staying calm is key. Hard to do when they are pulling your arm out of it's socket tho. lol
Good point on the staying calm. I've worked on that in other situations but you are right that when she jerks, my instinct is not to stay calm. Usually, "NO!" with other frustrated comments like "dang it Riley!" I've never hit her but I will nudge her on the hind quarters to get her attention. The trainer taught me that (like when we come to a corner and she doesn't instantly sit, he says nudge her with your knee to remind her) and it does seem to snap her out of it. She's probably feeding off the escalation in my voice. Good reminder!
I agree Lyndy, that would be an issue for me as well. Especially when training with treats and then mine getting treats and not working for them. Then the quality of treats would be a big issue since, like you, we are more educated as to what is good and not so good for them.
One thing I forgot to mention, Christy, is what I learned on here when it came to training. When you tell your dog to do something, his only thought is "what's in it for me?" So everything they learn has to have some meaningful reward for them to want to do it and to keep doing it. For most dogs, that is treats, some it's happy petting and play time. You will find what works best.
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