What if your dog didn't come from a rebutable breeder

[Jane Smith]

Apparently when I got my girls (a year apart) I didn't know much about breeders, or what questions to ask, if any.  I am now thinking that I got my girls from puppy mills, and I just feel sick.  I mean I love them, and they are healthy, but to think I contributed to that makes me sick.

 

The reason I suspect this, is I e-mailed the guy that set it up (both dogs were flown in from different states), and told him that I had someone that was interested in a dog from Ethel's breeder, and if he could get me the name of the breeder.  I have not gotten a response and this was a few days ago.  When I told the interested party that I believed I went through a breeder broker type thing, she informed me that it definitely was a puppy mill then and not a rebutable breeder.   Yikes! 

[F, Calla & Luca]

Report the URL to Adina privately. I think these brokers will accept anyone's money and have no way to screen out mills. This was one of the reasons I objected to the ads. I have reported them and some have disappeared from DK. We all need to do this.

[Jane Smith]

Thanks, I'll do that.

[Adina P]

We have discussed this at length...ads on the site are Google Ads.  We don't screen them individually but if a broker ad comes up just tell me about it privately and we will ban THAT particular ad. 

[Jane Smith]

I have to admit I felt a bit attacked when I brought up the fact that my trainer thought Lucy should be eating more protein.  She is not a licensed nutrionist, but I believe she had a lot of experience to draw from. 

 

Many of you pointed out that I should not listen to her because you felt she was out of her relm and therefore didn't know what she was talking about, but then some of you proceeded to tell me what "you" thought I should be feeding Lucy, and none of you are nutrionists either.  I think we all offer what we know, whether it first hand or we learned it from someone.  It doesn't make it right, or wrong.  You take what advice you want, and leave the rest. 

 

I work for a divorce attorney, and have for over 14 years.  While I cannot give legal advice, I sure know the answers to just about anything any of you could ask.  So, on that note.  I appreciate people sharing what they know, and what they feel is right, but what I don't appreciate is putting my trainer down as not knowing what she's talking about.

 

 

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Jane, the advice you were given in that discussion came from people with degrees in areas related to biology and biochemistry, one of them an M.D. It was also a subject that had been brought up before and those of us who responded had researched the subject. None of our comments were merely based on what we "thought" you should do, and none of them was "putting down" your trainer, just disagreeing with her advice on that one issue.

I would just hope that nobody here is under the impression that any other members of DK get their kicks from putting anyone down, criticizing, insulting, or hurting anyone. Where would the payoff be in that? I would hope that when someone voluntarily asks for advice, they would assume that anyone who takes the time and trouble to respond is trying to help.

[F, Calla & Luca]

Being one of those people I agree. I am not a veterinarian so I always defer to them. I do however have lots of training and education in human health and so sometimes I give advice that I think extrapolates to dogs. Still, I would never say "Your dog needs A hip Xray". I might say "Hey, your dog's gait looks a little off to me, you might want to check it out with your vet". No one, certainly not me meant to denigrate your trainer as a trainer but I do wonder whether she is a good person to rely upon for vetinnary advice. I also think that Karen knows more on the subject of dog nutrition than most vets and respect that.

[AndySharon BoomerShaynaMariner]

I have refrained from posting a second time on this discussion. I had hoped that my original post had set a positive tone for this discussion. Many  people that I have a great deal of respect have voiced their thoughts and opinions.  They have been critisized (sp?) for being honest and open.  The title of this post "invited" a discussion on what to look for in a breeder. 

 

No one is castigating those of us that may have gotten a dog from less than ideal situations. 

 

Read this discussion and decide  where your next doodle is going to come from.

 

Remember buying a dog that came from a puppy mill is not rescueing them, it is encouraging them to breed more puppy mill dogs.

 

I hope I have not offended anyone as that is not my intent.

[Rose Ann and Amante]

When you ask individuals for their opinion thats what you are going to get ,Opinions!!! Take the information you receive and decide what your opinion is.  A lot of wonderful comments were made on DK, I respect everyone's opinion and comments, but I don't have to and do not agree with some. I appreciate the honest emotion that we share with each other.  When I first joined DK someone said to me, I am sorry I do not remember who, Here on DK we share the good ,the bad, and the ugly! :-)

[Rose Ann and Amante]

Please excuse my English. English is my second language. I often have difficulty when it comes to writing. Everyone writes so eloquently on DK that I am often intimidated, but that won't stop me, LOL!!!!!

 

[Ricki and Tara (doodle)]

Very well said!

[Rose Ann and Amante]

Thanks!!