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Starting a new discussion to make it clear that the mouse is no longer the prime suspect in Winston's saga. He's at the ER where he's been since early this afternoon, being observed for what I can only believe is some sort of neurological issue.

His 'fits' start with with him suddenly bolting upright, a bit of drool falls out of his mouth, and then he starts wailing and flailing around, jumps on something (couch, bed, etc) pees and poops, and then sits there shaking and crying. Then suddenly, it clears up and it's as if it never happened. For the one he had first thing this morning we were heading out the door for a walk and it started. He ran down the hall, down the stairs and outside to the car, and begged me to let him in the car where I guess he feels safe (that's when I took off to my friends place, thinking if it was a mouse it wouldn't happen there, but sure enough, it did, and so off the the ER we went).  I am just so thankful it didn't happen while I was driving!

I think I will go pick him up in the morning and bring him to my vet's office which opens at 7am. They are not looking after him very well there, nobody knows what's going on, nobody is sharing information with each other. They didn't know about his food trial even though I told them when I admitted him and again over the phone. They didn't know he needed his thyroid medicine. Nobody in the back knew I was in the visitor room waiting to see Winston. I had to go knock on doors.  When I finally saw him he was still covered in his pee and poop and nobody had cleaned him or treated him yet. No blood tests were taken.

They told me the reason they haven't cleaned him yet is because he was nervous around them. That is impossible because there isn't a living, breathing, thing on earth that Winston doesn't adore. They didn't understand the seriousness at all. They just chalked it up to a nervous dog and a nervous owner. I explained, again, that he is not a nervous dog, and has never shown fear before, ever. Nothing startles him, bothers him or upsets him in any way, ever. I think they finally got it but how frustrating??? So in total I waited three hours, and maybe got about 20 minutes with him before he had another episode and they took him back to give him some valium. I waited for the vet to come talk to me and finally had to go knocking on doors again and it seemed nobody knew I was still there. Meanwhile the whole time I was sitting in that room, it turned out Winston was right on the other side of the wall. All someone had to do was bring him through the door. They promised a real live vet would call with a full update first thing in the morning.

Unfortunately the saddest news is that they have no idea what it is, and said they have never seen anything like this before. I asked them what the point was of me leaving him there if nobody was going to tend to him or treat him in any way. They reassured me they were watching him closely and that it was the only way for them to get a sense of what is wrong.

I'm thinking I will get him out of there in the morning and for now, at least he's spending the night with a doctor, so if something bad happens then he will be looked after. But if the issue is fear and fear only I sure wish I could be there with him. I hate the thought of him having these episodes with nobody there to comfort him. :(

I'm sure there's a gazillion spelling errors here, sorry but I'm so tired...

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the drive isn't so bad as I do it all the time. It's the same drive I did for Christmas! There was a specialist three hours away but the one near Toronto is where most of my family and old high school buddies are. I will have lots of company there and free place to stay overnight.

Sounds good.

I second this.  My vet consulted with a pathologist in Guelph when we couldn't figure out why Gavin was having febric episodes and she was instumental in figuring out that it was a lingering kidney infection.

This is really encouraging. thanks!

Wow! It is a long drive from Ottawa to Toronto with a sick doodle in tow! I used to live in Ottawa and I am surprised there aren't any specialists there since it is the Capital of the country! I hope you find out something positive about Winston soon! He is such a sweet looking dood! Reminds me of Parker!

I imagine the specialists are affiliated with the veterinary colleges.

The other option was Sainte Hyacinthe in Quebec, an hour out of Montreal, so in total 3 hours from here. The problem with that is that I don't know a single person there and I don't know how well they will be able to serve me in English. that is where I was originally going to go for the dermatology, but since I have the week off, I'm trying to get a dermatology appointment at the ontario veterinary college in Guelph (about 45 minutes from Toronto).

Somebody on DK has some sort of connection in Guelph. I will try to find who.

Here is the discussion but it doesn't seem like the connection did much good.

Glad to hear Winston had a better day today. That means you did too hopefully! How is Sophie Bear doing with all this? I sure hope things get resolved quickly for your sweet boy...keeping your household in thoughts and prayers!

She was a little wierded out and confused by it all, and confused as to why he doesn't want to play with her. He always wants to play with her so it is a bit weird. but I think she is coping well.

Big hug to you and Winston!  What a whirlwind couple of days.  I am so happy to hear that he hasn't had another episode.  I'm sure the 4.5 hour drive with a sick doodle will be tough, but if it helps you get the answers you need.... it will feel like nothing.  So glad that he seems to be settling down.... give him some extra loving and cuddling!   Hope you get some rest.  Please do keep us updated!

thank you. I actually got to thinking about what would happen if he has an episode in the car while I'm driving. I'm not sure it would as he seems to like the car as he begged me to let him in there during one of his fits. But still, super scario if he has one while I'm on the highway...

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