Parti Goldendoodles

[Elizabeth B]

Someone with knowledge about parti goldendoodles (I know nothing)...Will a black and white parti puppy typically stay black and white as an adult or does the black lighten with age to a silver/grey? Does the adult black and white parti end up looking like a sheepdog's coloring or can they stay a true dark black with white?

[Marnie, Stanlee's Mom]

Genetics, my friend, are not an easy thing to predict if you don’t have all the facts….but luckily, isn’t there a geneticist among us? 

 

A true black should not fade nor should there be any white hairs within the black but a parti black and white?  I have no idea.

[Joanna, Zoe & Bender]

I think it really varies... for example, both Zoe's parents were parti.  Mom was black & white parti and the dad was a brown & white parti.  Zoe and all her siblings came out black with white paws and chest.  Zoe has silvered out on some parts of her fur but one of her siblings stayed black.  I guess it really depends.  I follow Zoe's breeder on facebook and owners often post pictures of their doodles like a year after etc.  SOme are still dark parti's and others are more faded.

[F, Calla & Luca]

There are shivering genes in lacks and I,d imagine there could be in some partis. So who know? If the parents remained black, the odds are better that a parti would remain black I think.

[Pat and Traveler]

Huh?  LOL

[F, Calla & Luca]

Aside from the missing b in blacks it made sense to me. That doesn't mean it's right of course.

[Donna K & Quincy]

">) What are shivering genes? 

[F, Calla & Luca]

Whoops, 2 errors, I should never type on this stupid iPad but it is so convenient. See the v gene response below for silvering genes : )

[Nicky, Riley & Boris]

I like shivering better than silvering. Are they the same as fading genes?

[F, Calla & Luca]

Yes they are one kind of those I think. Genetics are very complicated and there are many genes which interact and affect coat color and changes.

[Heather & Jake]

I don't have the time to type out a whole response, but this explains it well:

http://www.doggenetics.co.uk/greying.html

Hope it helps!

[F, Calla & Luca]

The v gene for silvering is different. Here is an explanation of that in Havanese dogs but labradoodles have them too from what I have read.
http://www.havanesecolors.com/ggv.html

[Heather & Jake]

Ah yes...  I put that in too quickly before reading through the whole page since I had to run out the door :)  It's nice that the silver is opposite of grey... Silver being recessive I'd think there's a greater chance for the pups to stay dark, unlike the grey which is dominant; however as silver shows incomplete dominance, they may still fade some just not as drastic.  That link explains it well.  I agree that if the parents stay dark, the greater the chance the pups will as well.

As silver is a different allele (V) than the black/brown color (B) it can and does still happen in partis, just may not be as common for them to carry the recessive allele (v), but I don't know.  All depends on what combination of alleles the dog inherits as others have mentioned.