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Hi all,

After 4 long years of waiting, I finally graduate with my M.ed and have adopted a doodle as a reward.  (I fear free time can you tell) .

After over 100 hours of research, I selected this little boy from a small breeder in Utah.  I get to meet him on Easter Weekend.  

Please meet the newest addition to my family:

Nimbus

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Adorable!

Wishing you lots of luck with your new darling. You are in the right place for good reliable information given by kind and generous people. You will also make good friends along the way :)
This is the most adorable looking puppy, so cute!

Oh he's just adorable! Congratulations!

What a gorgeous puppy.  Enjoy.

Congratulations on both your accomplishments :) Welcome Nimba!  He's a very handsome little fellow! Puppy Madness…a "must join."

My my, what big ears you have! He will grow into them, that is for sure!  he will be a very cute dog, especially with those eyes! but he will not be curly and may shed a bit more then some doodles--just be prepared for that as he definitely has more of a retriever look--but will be gorgeous! And I love the name.

Based on his current coat type, it is likely you will notice some shedding.

If those are really the generations of his parents, then I don't think he is an f1b- I'm pretty sure that makes him a multigen or f2 of some sort. Ginny knows best on the coat types and generation characteristics as she has a lot of experience

Welcome to DK! He sure is a cute puppy and has such a SWEET face! :) From what I've read, the F2 generation is one of the most unpredictable in coat types and more likely to shed. Shedding or not, he is adorable!

SECOND GENERATION  GOLDENDOODLES  -  F2

second generation Goldendoodle (F2) is the result of a Goldendoodle bred to a Goldendoodle - and there are very few of these actually bred as the second generation hybrid is genetically the most varied generation possible.  (see study below on wolf-poodle hybrids)  When breeding on, most Goldendoodle breeders breed a backcross instead, as the pups are more predictable, and work well for people with allergies
Coat Maintenance:  varies on the coat type
Coat Description: The coat can be a hair coat, wavy coat, or curly coat.
Shedding:  varies greatly from shedders to nonshedders
Allergy Friendliness:  not recommended for families with allergies, due to the varying coat types.

With doodles, you never know whether you will get a shedder or non-shedder. They are essentially mutts and that makes things a little unpredictable. There are ways to better predict what is likely, but no way to guarantee anything. Getting a purebred dog is the only way to ensure certain characteristics like low shedding are present. Whatever happens with Nimbus' shedding tendencies, I'm sure you will love him :) More shedding means less grooming! That is a positive for sure!

These two pups are not too different actually and look like the mom for the most part as far as coat goes--you can get a combination of all the retriever genes when you go with an F2 and the poodle genes are not present as much in that particular pup--if non-shedding was a big priority for youand the breeder knew that, then she should have mentioned that these guys do not have much curl and may shed a little or even a lot....but it is really hard to tell and sometimes these scruffier looking doodles don't shed much at all. If the mom is a non-shedder, that is a good sign--

One of the pups I raised looked just like a lab as a baby and got scruffier as an adult but doe not shed at all--so keep your fingers crossed! When you get him, you can gently pull on hairs on his back above the tail and see how many come out--that is an early indicator of how the coat will be--but he should be easy to groom!

I honestly don't see too much of a difference in the two puppies' coats. I see the added curl you are referring to in the second pup on his ears, but the difference is minimal IMO. I personally do not like the term "non-shedding" because I don't think there is such a thing as a zero shedding dog. I shed, you shed. Even dogs with hair rather than fur will lose some hair every now and then. I also think that term helps bolster the myth of the "perfect designer dog". Unless your breeder has contacted each of the families who have the puppies from previous litters to determine whether they have noticed shedding as an adult dog (which she may have, who knows) I'm not sure how she would know that for sure. The second puppy looks a little "fluffier" than the first, so if that is what you are going for, you may be better served going with puppy number 2. Ginny would know best, though. These are just my semi-novice opinions :)

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