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I have noticed that there have been a few new members that seem to have adopted their pets at quite a young age (they also seem to have them home already). Not Judging but wondering, I understand there may be circumstances but it has always been my understanding that 8 weeks or older is preferable.
To new prospective owners looking for help I thought a discussion on the boards would be a good place for them to start.
How old was your puppy when you brought him or her home....Daisy was 9 weeks.
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I too, Lisa, was wondering the same thing. We brought Rua home at 8.4 weeks. I did a lot of research before getting her and bringing her home. Not only did I become a DoodleKisses member several weeks before we brought her home, but I found the following website on "New Puppy Support". It is from the International Doodle Owner's Group.
http://www.idog.biz/NewPuppySupport.html
Before Rua enters each new stage, I print out the section and read up on it. I then sit down and discuss with my DH so we are both on the same page. For example, before Rua hit the 4 month Flight stage, I told my DH that he MUST ALWAYS take Rua outside to potty on her leash (it repeated the importance of it 3 times in 7 bullet points) - we live on a golf course and we have no fence. It is not a matter of "IF" she will run, it is a "WHEN".
I am pasting the section on Puppy Toddlers Period, which describes why it is very important that they be with their mothers. Again, there could be certain circumstances where it can't happen, but I agree that it is preferrable. Hopefully this will help. I think I will post in Puppy Madness too!
Puppy Toddlers Period (3 - 8 Weeks) | ||||||||
“Mom teaches dog manners” | ||||||||
During the Toddler period, the doodle puppies emerge on their own from the litter. They venture into the surrounding environment. These lessons learned in the toddler stage are CRITICAL. Puppies removed too early tend to be nervous, tend to bark innappropately, tend to bite simply because these lessons a mother and littermates usually provides were missed. Training problems and long-term behavior problems can often be attributed to a puppy removed from the litter much too soon. | ||||||||
Beginning at 3 weeks of age, what is going on: | ||||||||
The first lessons learned are dog specific behavioral patterns | ||||||||
* They will learn various postures meanings and their affects to their mother and littermates. | ||||||||
* They will learn how to bite and what it is like to be bitten. | ||||||||
* They will learn what barking and other vocalizations mean and their uses. | ||||||||
* They will learn how to establish social relationships with other dogs. | ||||||||
Beginning at 5 weeks of age, what is going on: | ||||||||
Vocalization and tempered activities (dog manners) usually are learned at approximately 5 weeks of age. | ||||||||
* They will learn how to be submissive to the leader of the pack. | ||||||||
* They will learn and refine additional postures, vocalizations and acceptable dog interaction behaviors. | ||||||||
What the Puppy’s mother will do: | ||||||||
The mother will growl, snarl and snap to communicate. With a few very clear signals and repetitions, the young puppy will learn quickly. At that point a mothers glare or low growl is all that is needed to keep a young pup in line. Littermates also learn clear signals of communication to each other. | ||||||||
Socialization Period (7 - 12 Weeks) and First Fear Imprint Period (8-11 Weeks) | ||||||||
“Lasting impact, rapid learning” | ||||||||
Dogs that are denied socialization during this critical Socialization period often become unpredictable because they are fearful or aggressive. It is during this time, that your dog needs to have positive experiences. They need to be introduced to new things and begin the groundwork to a happy, well-adjusted dog. | ||||||||
Beginning at 7 weeks of age, what is going on: | ||||||||
* Short attention spans. | ||||||||
* Things learned are permanent and will be resistant to change. | ||||||||
* Puppy will be eager to learn. | ||||||||
* What he does and learns now, he will do as an adult. | ||||||||
* Puppy’s temperament and personality will become more apparent. | ||||||||
* Puppy will be transitioning his education from his mother to his human environment. |
In many states it is illegal to sell puppies before the age of 8 weeks.
We recently had a dog relinquished to the DRC who had been sold to his owner at 6 weeks of age. He had no bite inhibition and no idea how to get along with other dogs. His previous vet had recommended puppy socialization classes after she found out how young he had been when he was taken from his litter, but he still had a lot of trouble with these issues. At 15 months old, he was still like a young puppy in many respects, and it took a very dedicated and experienced adoptive family to turn him around.
Jack was adopted as an adult, but my last puppy was almost 10 weeks old when her breeder let her go. She was fully crate trained and it took me three days (I am not exaggerating) to get her housebroken.
Cooper was a little over 9 weeks. I would NOT take a dog at less than 8 weeks, preferably 9 weeks.
I have seen a few dogs at work who went to their forever homes at 6 weeks or less - and they ALL have behaviour issues (even at such an early age you can tell they are not quite right). Im not saying ALL dogs taken at an early age have issues - im a firm believer that with the right help they can do very well. Sometimes a mother dies, sometimes she is "done" with the puppies early.... but in this case I would still keep them if I were a breeder.... A GOOD breeder should know what to do to help raise the puppies like the mother dog would
Id be interested as to what some breeders here will say
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