Too much pee!!!!!!

[Jessica]

UGH!!  I'm going kinda crazy here.  My sweet labradoodle Coco has to go outside 3-4 times within an hour to make sure her bladder is empty, and even then will still occasionally come in and pee within a few minutes!  

A little background- she is 15 weeks, pretty well crate trained (actually will go most nights from 11-6:30 with no accidents) but at least 1 pee accident a day in the crate, even with taking her out at least every 1.5 hours.

She now also has a specific spot in the dining room that she likes to poop in.  It's driving me nuts!!

All that being said, I love her to pieces, and she has a fantastic temperament.  I'm just concerned that she doesn't seem to empty her bladder.  And before you say it, I really do stay outside for a while.  I usually wait outside until she goes twice and then runs for the door.  

Any advise? 

Thank you!!!!  This is my first post, and I'm LOVING this site!!

:)

Jessica

[Lindsay n Archie]

Hi Jessica- going through potty training/ crate training too!! Is Coco in her crate all day and you take her out every 1.5 hours? Are you home during the day? Just tyring to figure it out!  Do you have the divider in the crate so its not too big. Just big enough for her to turn around and lay down. Did you spray that spot she is going to the bathroom in with any special spray to help get rid fo the smell? 

[Lindsay n Archie]

Also- I have heard some other people talk about bladder and UTI? Jsut a thought!

[Megan York]

I know how daunting of a task housetraining can be and it seems like you're outside with a pup all the time, however, if you're accurate on this stats, it sounds like to me your pup might have a UTI. I'd call your vet!! If that's what it is, an antibiotic will make your life and hers much better!!!

 

:)

[Julie Kudron]

Could she have a bladder infection?

[Emily Lau]

Hello!!! 

What is her water intake? I found out (and my vet says too) that some puppies just drink non-stop if they have water available to them at all times. Mine is that way. I keep him well hydrated, but on a strict schedule. (One cup at meal time, half - one cup between meal times, depending on activity level). And it works. (above water intake is for a 35 lbs, 19-week-old puppy during the winter).

He hangs out in the house for an extended period of time (1-2.5 hour) after he empties his bladder along with poo poo (usually we go potty 30 min - 1 hour after each meal). 

Days that we let him drink water to his heart's content (at the park, for example), he has like 3 accidents in the house. Regular days? None.

Might be worth a try. :)

[Jessica]

Thanks for the quick replies!  I'll try to get her to the vet print, just to check on the UTI situation.  

I am at home during the day (most times), but I have a 2 year old and 5 year old at home, so it is a busy house!  I want to leave her out of her crate more, but her 'pee schedule' is so crazy, that I don't feel like I can trust her at any time other than when she is napping at my feet!  I feed her twice a day, any only give her water during her meals (7 & 5), and about noon.  It seems like almost every time we go outside though, she is looking for puddles to drink from.  I don't limit her water during those times.  Am I doing this all wrong??  I don't want to limit her water an be a bad owner!!  And at the same time, it is impossible for me to take her out every 30 minutes!

I do have a divider in the crate, and I'm positive it is at the right size.  I feed her all of her meals in there.  Sometimes she will have been in there for an hour & a half, make NO noise, and when I go to take her out there is a wet spot!!  Yet, she can hold it almost every night, all night long!!

 

[Lindsay n Archie]

I would start with the vet. If thats all clear then.... Since she isnt really getting trained in the crate it seems- perhaps you can gate her in an area you will be in (like kitchen if its tile) and the second she looks like she has to pee you take her outside.  When she pees outside, praise her like crazy "good girl, yes potty outside, woohoo!" and treats if she likes them.... But some puppies go every 30 mins. If she learns now to go outside, she will hold it longer and longer (granted there is no infection or anything).  I have heard of people teathering the dogs to them. I havent done this but have heard good things. I give archie water in the mornings , i leave it out from like 5 am to 8 am, then he goes in his crate (unwililngly), and then I take him out at lunch, give him water and walk him, etc, he goes back in his crate until 4. hes free for water until like 730 we put it up.... Then we go up to bed about 1030. Hes out of his crate after 4, he usually pees every 1.5 hours or so. 

[Doug, Micki, Dawson & Mya]

Out youngest, Mya was like that, would take her outside and she would go, and five minutes later (or less) we'd catch her squatting on the carpet. She would tank up on water as soon as she would come back in. and she would even go outside, just to eat the snow! She drank far more water than Dawson ever did! There was nothing wrong with her physically, just a craving for lots of water. We thought she would never learn. It appeared she would sneak off and  find a location where we could not see her, and do her business. It took quite a few times of catching her in the act, startling her, scooping her up, ringing the potty bells on the door, scurrying outside, and praising her (and giving her a cookie) when she completed her business. Then all of a sudden, one day, we heard the bells jingle, and low and behold, there she was waiting at the back door. From that day on she has not had an accident. So it may seem like Coco will never learn, but some day, she will surprise you too.....

[Gwyndolyn Morasko]

Oh man....I thought Kona was never going to "get it" completely.  The first two weeks he only had one accident and I thought I had won the lottery with a near perfect self-potty-trained puppy.  But then I realized that I was just super vigilent and that I was the trained one taking him out every 30 minutes.  When I relaxed a bit and started looking for signs, there were no signs!  He would just be happily playing and laughing and jumping and fetching and then just suddenly squat and pee!  Ugh!!!! 

So I went back to the vigilent schedule and the bell ringing and over the top praise, and he finally got it.  I think between 15 weeks and 18 weeks, he only had about 3 accidents (1 pee and 2 poops), and he hasn't had any since.  I LOVED the day when I first heard the bell ring when I was at the other end of the house and I turned the corner to see him sweetly sitting and staring at me waiting for me to open the door!  YAY!!!!

 

Lots of people have already mentioned the possible UTI.  That's the only time my kitties ever had accidents, so rule that out first.  In the meantime, it sounds like your crate might still be too big if she is able to have food and water in there with her.  I moved Kona to a MUCH smaller crate on the 3rd night he was with me to see if he would sleep better, and he has slept through the night ever since.  He is 5.5 months old now.  I didn't get rid of the small little plastic hard sided kennel until he was 4 months old and 15 pounds.  That's when I let him move back into the bigger metal crate with the divider at night and about 3 hours per day.  I didn't remove the divider until he hit 17 pounds and got longer and taller.  So he has only known crates to be sleep time or quiet time.  Never eating or peeing. 

 

I hope she does well!  I know how frustrating it was wondering if I could ever trust my puppy to tell me he had to go.  He liked playing too much to stop for such a boring activity as going outside.  But it finally happened.  It will for Coco too.  Some happen at 8 weeks.  Some at 28 weeks!  Hopefully Coco is before 16 weeks.

 

 

[Jessica]

Thanks for all of the advise!  We've got an appointment at the vet this Saturday, but I'm really thinking Coco just has to pee a lot!  I'm working to give her plenty of time every time we go out to make sure she goes a couple times.  I have also been trying to be more vigilant & on schedule with taking her out a TON.  

I reduced the size of her crate, but she has still gone a couple of times (always during the day, never at night).  She got to be getting close to the age to hold it, right?!?!  I've also been trying to keep her out of the crate more.  It helps to never forget to take her out if I'm worried she'll pee on my floor and not just in her crate!

[Debb, Lucy & Oscar]

It does sound like a UTI, especially if she's not drinking loads of water. Oscar was/is a huge water drinker and subsequently, he had/has to go a lot... and often. He never got the hang of the potty bells, either, so if he did/does make it to the back door, and we don't see him, all bets are off! Its ridiculous at his age, 6 months, to not know how to use the bells to tell us he needs to go potty. We're being vigilant about ringing the bells with his paw or nose before that door opens and saying, "ring the bells, go potty". He just looks at us blankly... and he's a super smart puppy in all other areas! I may look into a different type of bell, because clearly, the one we're using doesn't compute to Oscar. Oh, BTW, puppies can hold it far longer at night while they're sleeping, than they can during the day when they're awake and active, so don't assume because puppy holds it through the night that they should hold it as long during the day. Do use an enzyme cleaner for the crate to eliminate any scent of urine (is it a wire crate with a plastic tray?) If puppies smell even a hint of urine in their crate it may prompt them to pee there again, and remember their sense of smell is extremely sensitive. Wash any pads or blankets in the crate with an enzyme type detergent too (I use Oxyfresh powder). Hope this helps!