what do you think?

[Sally]

I figured this would be a place where i could get some feedback on a food that duncan tried out this week. It's a long story but Duncan spends some time at my friends pet-friendly office in the city. It's an ad/marketing agency. They had a new dog food client who needed help with creating a video to post on this website to get financial backing. I am posting a link to their food ingredients page. (he had the chicken). They gave me a container as a thank you for having him participate in the filming of the video. It was actually really cute. They made it look like a focus group but all the participants were dogs. We set them up in a conference room. They sat on chairs. They were also filmed eating the food. I really hope they reach their goal to get the backing because i was quite impressed with their product. And so was Duncan! Anyway, I have only given him a spoonful on top of his existing kibble (blue buffalo) with a reduction in the amount of his kibble serving so he wouldn't gain weight. He loved this food and i was really quite impressed by it's texture, and ingredient list. It didn't have any nasty strong smell like canned wet dog food does. I don't really intend on taking duncan off his kibble and at the moment this food is only available locally in a handful of places. But after seeing how duncan loved eating this other food as a "topping" for a week I thought i would ask your thoughts about the ingredients....

 

http://evermorepetfood.com/food/products/

[Kris & Brinkley]

It looks Quite impressive! The only thing I couldn't seem to figure is if the percents & lists are weighed while wet or dry...most likely wet but even still the other things stack high on the great list.

[Kaytlin and Cooper]

Interesting. Looks like it would make a good treat or topper for a dog who eats the good grains. Its super low in protein though so it wouldnt work as a complete diet in my opinion unless you feed large amounts like you have to canned food (which is fine if you either have a small dog or are very rich!)

 

I assume its a wet food - is it pureed like alot of canned food or is it chunky?

 

I can imagine Cooper would absolutely love this!

 

EDIT

Looks similar to the product made by the company I used t work for.... Only that had brown rice - Cooper loved it but pooped out the rice the same as it went in. And it wasnt packaged as nicely. It was SUPER EXPENSIVE as it was all hand made and time consuming

 

Looks like Cooper would need to eat a little more (680g/1.5lb) as she would raw food (600g/1.3lb) .... what is the cost like? Thats the big question

 

 

[Sally]

You know I have no idea about price as this container was given to me
But I am sure it's ridiculously expensive. 

[Sally]

it was a nice consistancy. I guess a combination of like a paté with cubes of things like carrots and the dandelion greans were like spinach when it's cooked. I just loved that each and every time i opened the container to take out a spoonful i was greeted with such a nice aroma. no stinky dog food smell. it did smell like a meal i would eat! I guess maybe every now and again i'll buy a container to give him as the "extra" on top of his kibble but i won't be switching. thanks for your input!

[Kaytlin and Cooper]

Similar to Merrick canned food? thats like chunky stew - Cooper loves those and gets them as a treat now and then. They smell good enough to eat!

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

I'd like to see a nutritional analysis...what is usually called the Guarnateed Analysis on most pet foods that give the percentages of nutrients including mineral and vitamin content.

The food looks heavy on organ meats, and one thing I learned just last night while reading my new "bible", the new Marion Nestle book on pet nutrition, is that organ meats are very high in phosphorus, which can cause a calcium defiency.

Until we can see a nutritional analysis, I would reserve this food as a "topping" and not feed it exclusively.

[Sally]

http://evermorepetfood.com/food/ingredients/

This page has a little pie chart. 

Yes. I don't plan on switching him. I really love the blue buffalo kibble but it would be nice to know I had a good option for special extras or if he had to have soft food for any reason in the future. Thanks for your input!

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

Yep, I saw the pie chart, but we need to see the percentages of phosphorus, calcium, other vitamins & nutrients, the Omega 6/3 ratios, etc. like this example from one of the Fromm formulas: Guaranteed Analysis
Protein 24% Min
Fat 15% Min
Fiber 3% Max
Moisture 10% Max
Ash 6.5% Max
Omega 6 Fatty Acids 2.5% Min
Omega 3 Fatty Acids 0.4% Min
Lactobacillus Acidophilus 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
Bifidobacterium Longum 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
Lactobacillus Plantarum 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min
Enterococcous Faecium 100,000,000 CFU/lb Min

Typical Analysis
Calcium 1.2%
Phosphorus 1.0%
Sodium 0.4%
Potassium 0.6%
Magnesium 0.12%
Zinc 135 mg/kg
Iron 229 mg/kg
Manganese 70 mg/kg
Copper 11.0 mg/kg
Cobalt 0.4 mg/kg
Iodine 1.53 mg/kg
Selenium 0.47 mg/kg
Glucosamine 400 ppm
Chondroiten 40 ppm
Vitamin A 18,200 IU/kg
Vitamin D 1,300 IU/kg
Vitamin E 180 IU/kg
Vitamin K 1.52 mg/kg
Vitamin B12 0.10 mg/kg
Choline Chloride 2,320 mg/kg
Niacin 82 mg/kg
Pantothenic Acid 26 mg/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vit C) 38 mg/kg
Riboflavin 7 mg/kg
Thiamine 8.7 mg/kg
Pyridoxine 4.2 mg/kg
Folic Acid 1.4 mg/kg
Biotin 0.3 mg/kg

[Kris & Brinkley]

one thing I forgot to mention. One of the things I like the best about this food is Kelp & Kale they are 2 of the BEST sources of Great nutrition including on the macro level.

A chart would be great for those who wouldn't know that. :) 

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

I'm confused. In what ways are kelp and kale 2 of the best sources of nutrition for dogs? And is the amount of these ingredients in this food sufficient to provide benefits?

A chart would be great for those who wouldn't know what?

[Kris & Brinkley]

Like I said they are very rich source, I am running on tired right now so I don't feel like writing it out & As I was talking about the the nutrition of kelp & kale a chart listing the nutrition in the food is what I was referring to.

[Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle]

But rich sources of what? What are the nutrients that kale and kelp are rich in? Since you make the statement that these are "2 of the BEST sources of Great nutrition including on the macro level", we would like to know in what way these plant foods, one of them very high in sodium, provide "great" nutrition (or any nutrition) for dogs. It doesn't seem like it would take that much energy to "write out" what they are. For example, "oranges are a rich source of vitamin C". That didn't take a lot of time. I don't feel like writing out all the info I provide here in this group either, but I do it to help others, and to clarify my statements.

I think if you're going to make statements about the benefits of a particular ingredient, you need to know what those benefits are. Particularly when you follow up the statement with a remark about "those who wouldn't know that" needing a chart, and a little smiley face. Maybe I'm taking that the wrong way, which is why I asked you to explain.