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[Billy Woody]

Thanks to all the supporters. 

Billy

[Billy Woody]

I never came here looking to debate Jane, you did. I came here looking for help with these two doodle pups. Instead you made it your mission to make me look bad as a breeder and as a person for not sharing your opinion of myself.

I assumed a place dedicated to Doodle lovers would bea great place to find caring, understanding people, I assumed wrong. You spent a lot of time researching me in order to gain more "ammo" for your opinions and you know what, I don't care to explain myself to you anymore after this post.

I am at peace with all of the decisions I make regarding my doodles. Thank you for showing me what a responsible breeder truly should be.

Good Day,

Billy

[Diana Erhart]

Billy...I am sorry that this thread has taken its toll on you.  I understand why you feel the way that you do.  I hope that you can get the assistance that you need to help find these sweet puppies a forever home and possibly the surgery if it would help them.  Please remember that there are people here who would like to help you in whatever way we can.  You can always feel free to send me a private message if there is a way that I can help.  I do hope that you consider contacting the DRC, Idog and the Doodle Messenger.  Although DRC and IDOG more than likely won't have a potential adopter, they may have some ideas or suggestions that you haven't thought of yet.  It is worth a try.  I will be keeping you and your puppies in my thoughts and prayers.

[Jennifer and Jack]

Billy, I am so sorry that you didn't get what you needed when you came here. Many of us saw and validated you as a breeder, myself included. I work very closely with my breeder, who has amazing integrity and is extremely honest like you are. Sometimes puppies die in spite of our best attempts.

Sometimes in spite of the best testing, it happens. I personally am a genetic nightmare, more testing was done on my puppy then on my parents who had me... and had the genetic testing have been done on me I for sure would not be here and as a result I had to end  our families "breeding lines"  too... so to speak.. I chose not to have children in hopes of not passing on these fatal genes.. so I know..sickness sucks but doing the responsible thing is what is right and I commend you for stopping all breeding in any genetically related dog.

Anyway, if you go back and read through the comments, you will see a lot of people gave you kudos for coming out with what you were dealing with. People offered to help the puppies, I know you didn't ask for money but you asked for help.

I never rescued a dog, I bought one from a breeder. I don't care what word you use, to me these puppies do need to be rescued/rehomed/saved/ . I am not stuck on a word.. but I never rescued so maybe I don't get that right..either way.. take the good that came out of this thread and leave behind what doesn't apply to you....

I sincerely hope you were just speaking in anger when you said Jane won so now you are going to put the puppies down. That would make me sick on so many levels one being that you let your emotions and what someone else says get the best of you so much that you ended to lives. That is acting in anger. Don't end a puppies life because you are pissed off at someone else.. That would not boad to well in my book.

You don't have to explain or justify  yourself to me. Please get the puppies tested to see if they are a surgical candidate.... I will help raise money if they are.

Many people on here also offered to help as well. I see a lot of people who are in tough situations doing their best....

I sincerely hope you continue to try to do what is best by these puppies

[L.M.]

Well said, Jennifer!! 

[Becka]

I agree! Thank you, Jennifer, for your cool-headed, thoughtful comments. I hope that Billy sees them, whether he chooses to leave or not. I really do believe that the majority of comments in this discussion were supportive and sympathetic.

[Moe]

Billy - The holier than thou mentality of some of the members make me want to leave also. There have been so many threads recently where people are looking for help or understanding only to find themselves being belittled and attacked. It makes me sad. Personally, I think they have no life and spend their days trying to make themselves feel important. I think they should go out and walk their dogs.

Looks like after this comment I will actually be leaving also. I wonder how many other people have been put off by this thread and others like it. This is not the friendly online community it should be. You guys should be ashamed.

[F, Calla & Luca]

If you leave that would be sad Moe. This site is a microcosm of the world at large like many groups. We agree and disagree and have different views of the world. Some people accept most things, some seem quite angry and others reject lots of things. I have chosen to accept the good with the bad here and I try to be objective and take things for what they are worth. I hope you can too. For in the end I have "met" many wonderful people, gotten lots of good advice and hopefully given some. Come join some of our groups where negative things do not happen. The Photography Group and the Garden group, among others, are positive places.

[Camilla and Darwin]

I agree completely with this. This forum is just like the real world. Everyone disagrees, everyone has areas that make them angry. Yes, people can get angry, sometimes rude, even judgmental. In the real world, when you face a person you disagree with, you don't just quit your job, or move. You work through it, or deal with it.

I don't agree with everything that is said here, or how it is handled. But I don't expect to. I respect everyone's opinion, and when someone does cross a line, it's usually because they have had a very emotional or personal experience dealing with issues like this. Everyone on this thread is, I'm very sure, a great person. And we all have different life experiences that make us different people. Something unique to appreciate in all of us. 

I hope you do stay, and Billy. and realize that while there is good and bad on DK, There is much more good. And ditto about coming to the photography group :-)

[Jennifer and Jack]

Well I got a brand new camera for Christmas last year and the only thing I managed to do with it is scratch the lens the first time I used it... I stink at gardening but I love happy peaceful places so I may have to start stalking there...

[Camilla and Darwin]

Jennifer you are welcome! Even phone pictures are allowed. :-)

[Jennifer and Jack]

Thanks, I would very much like to learn to use my nice camera... I have to figure out how to get rid of the big scratch I put in it from sand. Now that I am doing better, I have more free time I will pop in.... I just love to look at pretty pictures and I will most likely try to learn some of the more experienced peoples secrets..

[F, Calla & Luca]

I don't know that you can get rid of the scratch. But you can protect your lens in the future.

http://www.doodlekisses.com/group/Photographygroup/forum/topics/pro...