Training - Experiences, Challenges, and Mindsets

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Comment by Leslie, Yogi & Maci Bear on September 15, 2014 at 11:37am

Maci also does to Yogi, but then again, Yogi does it to Maci.

Comment by Deborah Brown on September 15, 2014 at 9:51am

I agree with Karen but we also tried to manage the situation when our little hellion was young.  The pup regularly had nap time in her crate and sometimes I'd use a gate to separate the dogs.  Our older dogs were pretty tolerant but I thought they deserved some time without the pest.  Wayne is a ball crazy dog and we still play with him separately so he can enjoy his fetch game in peace.

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on September 15, 2014 at 8:00am

Sheree, IMO this is not a training issue, it's just typical bratty puppy behavior and a typical tolerant older dog response. If this was a problem for Star, she'd handle it, and she probably will, once she decides to revoke Zoey's puppy license. I would not interfere, they will work it out. 

Comment by Sheree Small on September 15, 2014 at 7:16am

Hello all. I have a 9 year old lab, Star, who's favorite activity is fetching a ball, that and fetching a ball in the water. Our 6 month old golden doodle Zoey is more interested in taking what ever Star has. Zoey will chase a ball, and bring it back, but if Star has something, Zoey wants it more. I try having multiple balls and having Star wait until Zoey is running after a ball then throw hers, but the minute Zoey sees Star with a ball, she tries to steal it. Star is a bit dog dog aggresive with other dogs, but let's Zoey steal everything from her. This is true with chew toys as well. We try leave it when Zoey goes near Star with a chew toy and she will, as long as we are vigilant. As soon as we are not looking, Zoey has all 3 chew toys. Open to all suggestions. Thanks, Sheree

Comment by Shari Becker on June 12, 2014 at 5:07pm

We tethered a little around our waist when Lexi was really young. Now, we tether her with a leash. Our trainer had us set up two 'tether' stations for times when the dog needs to be contained, but not crated. We have one in the kitchen and one in the living room. I have a leash looped around a piece of furniture, and if I'm cooking, for example, and Lexi is stalking my ingredients. I tether her the second she tries to counter surf. She knows what it means (just like she knows she is not supposed to counter surf.) I don't say a word. I just take her by the collar and hook on her leash then I return to cooking. When she was very little, I'd have her near me so I could keep an eye on her for good chunks of the day, too. At the same time we are working on a long down stay, and when I have the time to practice, I do. My hope is that she'll eventually be able to stay in her down-stay without the leash, but for now, it's a benign way to keep her out of trouble, but near me, when can't control her impulses.

Lexi came litter trained, so she was pretty easy to housebreak, too. I can't speak to that. We've had no luck with the bells. She pretty much barks at the door if she has to go and we don't notice. 

Comment by Gwyndolyn Morasko on June 12, 2014 at 3:09pm

I think my habits with him when he was a pup were very similar to "tethering".  When I would cook, I'd have him in the kitchen with me with the gate up.  And when I was paying bills or working on my computer, he was in my small office or room with me with the doors closed, and he would curl up on his bed next to me.  I have dog beds in every room in my house, so I effectively "tethered" him by restricting the size of the room he could roam in.  

Comment by Gwyndolyn Morasko on June 12, 2014 at 3:05pm

Karen,

As I've mentioned a few times....I think I'm just seriously lucky to have had such a great puppy from such a great breeder.  I think he understood the concept of "potty outside" from a very young age due to his breeder doing more than 3/4 of the training of that very important concept, so the bell lets me know from the other side of the house that he is sitting at my back door and needs to go outside.  There are many times that they leave my side just to go eat or drink something, so the bell helps me not have to jump up and follow them every time they leave the room.  Only when they actually need to go outside. When Maggie arrived as a scruffy scrappy rescue, she was amazing with learning things immediately.  Kona is an adorable little clown, but I must admit that Maggie is smarter and a quicker study of new commands.  (I wish Kona had her manners! He has started barking for attention the past few weeks.  Something very new that I now have to learn how to retrain him.  So strange to have this new bad behavior!)

Comment by Gwyndolyn Morasko on June 12, 2014 at 2:52pm

I was very sick for several months when he arrived at my house when he was 8 weeks old, so I was working from home for a few months when he first arrived.  He was on a little bed next to me in my office much of the time that I was on the computer or phone, so I guess my home office was a lot like a 10X10 foot giant "crate" and the closed office door acted like a "tether" of sorts.  When I moved to the living room in the evenings, I closed the bedroom and bathroom doors, so he didn't have much room to wander.  I live in a tiny little 1200 sq foot house in Los Angeles, so closing off rooms only left him the living room, kitchen and dining room if he ever left my sight.

The longest he was ever in his crate during the day was for 1 hour trips to the grocery store for many months due to my boyfriend taking turns with me.  At about 4 months, he graduated to a gated off kitchen when I had to leave the house for a few hours but he still slept in his crate (happily) every night  until Maggie joined him at 10 months.  She had never been crated in her life, so that is when I finally let Kona have an open crate at night, and let them have my kitchen and dining room gated off so they had more room to wander and sleep while I was gone, but they've never been left alone more than 4 hours.

I think I have seriously been very lucky with my two pups.  All I have to say is "Kitchen!" and they both jump up and move into my dining room or kitchen and lie down on their beds or crawl into their constantly open door crates for a nap while I close off the gate and either leave the house for a few hours, or go to bed for the night. 

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on June 12, 2014 at 2:40pm

I could not keep a watchful eye on a puppy and cook at the same time. I couldn't pay my bills or balance my checkbook and watch a puppy at the same time. These are just two examples of the kinds of everyday tasks people do during which they might tether a puppy to them. 

Comment by Jane, Guinness and Murphy on June 12, 2014 at 2:37pm

Cindy...here's a link to the Adina/Clark training discussion.  http://www.doodlekisses.com/forum/topics/spring-training-2014

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